Little Lad's loan ad is on the net...
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Ravenwood
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Do you think it might be a little bit too honest? In all honesty if I was looking for my daughter that advert would put me off.
As you have already said he needs an experienced rider could you explain that he bucks and runs off over the phone?
As you have already said he needs an experienced rider could you explain that he bucks and runs off over the phone?
Lucy_Nottingham
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ahh hes so handsome!
Id maybe take out hte bit about bucking and running off, I think strong under saddle is a nice polite way of putting it, and is less scary sounding......
Id maybe take out hte bit about bucking and running off, I think strong under saddle is a nice polite way of putting it, and is less scary sounding......
MrsMozart
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Good point RW - the thing is, he really does need a very experienced rider as he can drop a shoulder, buck like a handstand, and bob off at speed (not a bolter though). Once a rider has sat down and said 'No' and pulled him round and back in order, then he's great, but he will test each person who gets on if he's feeling that way inclined. The only time he won't is when he's on the lead rein or when hacking out in company, then he's fine.
I don't want to waste any potential people's time
. If someone is looking for a fun pony that loves to be cuddled, is fine to handle in the stable, ride a reasonable dressage test and hacks out past all sorts of horse eating monsters, and they have the ability to say 'Behave lad!' then he would be great
If he was happy to jump then it might be different, but the points of the saddles have dug into his shoulders on landing after the higher jumps and he (quite rightly I think!), no longer wants to jump those.
He reminds me of many a pony I rode when I was younger, but these days people seem to want something with less attitude.
I don't want to waste any potential people's time
If he was happy to jump then it might be different, but the points of the saddles have dug into his shoulders on landing after the higher jumps and he (quite rightly I think!), no longer wants to jump those.
He reminds me of many a pony I rode when I was younger, but these days people seem to want something with less attitude.
MrsMozart
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ahh hes so handsome!
Id maybe take out hte bit about bucking and running off, I think strong under saddle is a nice polite way of putting it, and is less scary sounding......
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But the thing is, it is scary when it happens
Eldest daughter can handle it and sits down and tells him to behave, youngest got ditched and has given up riding. Due to his size, I don't want pushy parents putting their less than capable children on him..., so I thought if I was totally hones then they wouldn't try
ahh hes so handsome!
Id maybe take out hte bit about bucking and running off, I think strong under saddle is a nice polite way of putting it, and is less scary sounding......
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But the thing is, it is scary when it happens
Lucy_Nottingham
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i think that warning people is fine, but scaring people off, is obv less good...... maybe say he needs a firm rider, but once boundaries are in place he is ace! or something like that after the under saddle comment so your saying "if you are not a confident rider etc dont bother"
Its difficult obv as you need sufficient warning without going AHHHH MY PONY IS A NUTTER!!!
even though hes gorgeous!
Its difficult obv as you need sufficient warning without going AHHHH MY PONY IS A NUTTER!!!
even though hes gorgeous!
MrsMozart
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Thought of that L_N, but really (really, really, really) don't want people who think they are confident to get on him and find out they aren't capable
Eldest daughter has seen what he can do (good and bad) and learnt to manage the bad - admittedly to the point of him turning into a slow coach at times lol
When we got him he was advertised as a second pony and I thought youngest daughter would whizz up throught the ranks (she had the potential), but I got it totally wrong
Now she has given up altogether. Other people ride him (lightweight adults, very competant children) and they have a whale of a time on him, everyone is surprised by how well he has been schooled.
Ah well, rambling again
Eldest daughter has seen what he can do (good and bad) and learnt to manage the bad - admittedly to the point of him turning into a slow coach at times lol
When we got him he was advertised as a second pony and I thought youngest daughter would whizz up throught the ranks (she had the potential), but I got it totally wrong
Ah well, rambling again
ForeverBroke_
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I think personally, it goes into enough detail without pushing it
You haven't gone into epic length about how he'll do the hand stand bucks etc and that he'll just fly off afterwards. Some people might like the challenge? Who knows - they could be reading about a pony who'll do small bunny hops.
If that makes sence
The good outweighs the bad anyway. After all its for loan so they wont be buying into anything.
Sorry if that seems a bit of a laxy-dazy approach!
If that makes sence
The good outweighs the bad anyway. After all its for loan so they wont be buying into anything.
Sorry if that seems a bit of a laxy-dazy approach!
MrsMozart
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DL - that's what I thought. He does other things, but basically, if you can sit the main points, then he won't do the rest/it won't become an issue.
It's like the jumping. He can jump well over three feet, but if he's scared then he puts in the most dirty stops (on last stride suddenly gets a look of panic on his face
). I didn't mention that though because I've said he's not keen on jumping and jumping isn't an every day thing, unlike a canter round the field/school where he is very likely to test the new rider and drop a shoulder/buck/bob off.
It's like the jumping. He can jump well over three feet, but if he's scared then he puts in the most dirty stops (on last stride suddenly gets a look of panic on his face
ForeverBroke_
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If its any concellation he sounds just like Darce
Regarding jumping anyway. Darce has got the scope to fly but atm we're trying to get over the scary-ness. Ah well! Horses eh? Good luck with your search
MrsMozart
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Ta DL - will let you know
3Beasties
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I tried loaning my Pony out for over a year and didn't find any takers. I wasn't as 'honest' in my adverts as you have been as I planned to go into detail if the right person phoned up.
She was advertised as a 2nd pony who needed a confident experienced rider. I got 5 phone calls all from people who wanted her as a 'lead rein' pony. I think I scared off anybody who had more experienced children as for some reason they seem to think that 'needs a confident experienced rider' means pony is a nutter
I guess what I am trying to say is that by being to Honest you will be putting people of straight away. It is hard to get across in an advert how good he can be if ridden confidently but it would be a lot easier to explain over the phone. I would change you advert slightly for this reason.
PS. Pony now has a regular jockey and is going fantastically (In my opinion
) so I am glad I didn't find a loaner for her, now people have seen how fab she is I think I could loan her 5 times over
She was advertised as a 2nd pony who needed a confident experienced rider. I got 5 phone calls all from people who wanted her as a 'lead rein' pony. I think I scared off anybody who had more experienced children as for some reason they seem to think that 'needs a confident experienced rider' means pony is a nutter
I guess what I am trying to say is that by being to Honest you will be putting people of straight away. It is hard to get across in an advert how good he can be if ridden confidently but it would be a lot easier to explain over the phone. I would change you advert slightly for this reason.
PS. Pony now has a regular jockey and is going fantastically (In my opinion
yeeharider
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have pm'd you
Dubsie
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Would rephrasing it along the lines of... 'Needs a firm but kind rider to be in charge rather than allow him to evade work, hence not suitable for novice' work better? I'd be put off for my daughter by your 'can be strong under saddle (buck, run off) as that sounds somewhat scary on a pony you don't know - when in fact it's just what her little SecA used to get up to to avoid work.
Oh and you put sweatitch the 2nd time, which made me laugh as quite appropriate this weather!
Oh and you put sweatitch the 2nd time, which made me laugh as quite appropriate this weather!
Dobby
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I think it's a good advert, very honest and nicely written, even about the bucking - I mean they are going to find out sooner or later!
amycov
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I'll have him.
zeuscleoharmony
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I think it is a nice little ad. The bit about the bucking and his quirkyness should deter the less experienced, quite rightly, but being honest and open is best, IMO. You say it how it is. I welcome an honest advert - as things look at the moment, my extremely promising rider daughter will never ride again * after trying a 'bombproof' pony out and it spooked and threw her, very nasty. Had I been forewarned, I most definitely would have kept her on lead rein for her trial ride but was led to believe this was unecessary. I am too honest for my own good sometimes but won't change, too old.
* If there is anyone out there with a bombproof, and I mean bombproof pony to help her gain her confidence, please get in touch. Am in Portsmouth, Hants. A3 corridor would be great.
* If there is anyone out there with a bombproof, and I mean bombproof pony to help her gain her confidence, please get in touch. Am in Portsmouth, Hants. A3 corridor would be great.