Little Nephew for Angrove Rumbaba flat this time

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Very excited about our latest baby he is the Nephew to our homebred National hunt horse Angrove Rumbaba, we have called him Angrove Fatrascal as my daughter loves them! bettys tearoom yummy!
Podge as he will be known at home will be aimed for the flat when hes old enough he is very early as he was not due till the 27th ish !;)
Hes growing rapidly and is so bold he leaves his mum to come and say hello to us.
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He is homebred out of our mare Marshal Plat Club by Angrove spottedick GB
 
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yes he wont be racing till he is at least three, we did not get his mum till July last year, and we made the decision to cover her so better late then never :D
 
Well we shall have a go! anyway thank you.;)we thank fully have two crosses to captain mavericks sire Nureyev which is a nick to the mares bloodline and we are hoping that will work can but try in life.
 
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Stunning foal. I wish you all the best with her future. Rather hoping the above comment is tongue in cheek - a bit below the belt if not.....
 
Thankyou jackson :) Amos Thank you, people are welcome to there opinions, I shall carry on regardless in blissfull happiness with my plans which include more then me/ and its so much fun in these glommy times to help make people smile :D
 
Amos said:
Rather hoping the above comment is tongue in cheek - a bit below the belt if not.....
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Not really, you generally cross like with like to produce more of the same. If you wish to inject speed into the lines then you cross a sprinter with a miler/mile 1/4 horse, if you want to add in staying power then you go for longer trip horses, such as Derby horses or National Hunt mares. Crossing extreme distances for racing isn't overly desireable and normally ends up with a tripless horse. It's kinda the same as crossing a shetland with a welsh D for showing - both are natives, the resulting offspring will more than likely turn out to be fab at something else in life just not it's designed purpose.


Angrove - I do wish you all the best in your endeaver but it's most certainly not lines I would cross. I'd go for a National Hunt mare with that stallion.
 
EKW said:
Not really, you generally cross like with like to produce more of the same. If you wish to inject speed into the lines then you cross a sprinter with a miler/mile 1/4 horse, if you want to add in staying power then you go for longer trip horses, such as Derby horses or National Hunt mares. Crossing extreme distances for racing isn't overly desireable and normally ends up with a tripless horse. It's kinda the same as crossing a shetland with a welsh D for showing - both are natives, the resulting offspring will more than likely turn out to be fab at something else in life just not it's designed purpose.


Angrove - I do wish you all the best in your endeaver but it's most certainly not lines I would cross. I'd go for a National Hunt mare with that stallion.
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The pedigree you will find two crosses to Captain maverick and Gunner B they are both milers Gunner B won the Eclipse stakes and he is a dual stallion, as we have more milers and no national hunt horses and certainly no chasing bloodlines I dont know were you got that from! in the pedigree i stayed true to the above and crossed with a sprinter to milers Rummy is less TB then this foal and this foal maternal side is Gunner B
 
MARSHAL PLAT CLUB Sire: 6f SPrinter - Dam: Mile bred.
Sire produces sprinters. Dam family - milers. So is essentially a short distance speed family.

Sire: Milers on Danehill side. Sprinters on Song's side.

Dam: Key To The Mint - 10f. Mr Prospector - miler.

Sire: Angrove Spotted Dick

Sporthorse side - will be slow stayers for eventing.
Gunner B - produced Grand National winners, Scottish Natinal winners, Tommy Whittle winners, - 3mile plus horses. A Champion Hurdler - 2miles.


Sprinters crossed with stayers.
 
Well this is my third post you have trolled me on, recently, you seem to follow every thing i write and enjoy a conflict with everthing i say anybody who knows us and follows what we do knows that we produce some fantastic horses obviously at this early stage we are not going to win the Derby but all great movements start with small beginings if you have a problem with that perhaps you need help.;)
 
EKW - you may have a point (and I wouldn't know as racing isn't my game), but, really, when someone posts with pride about their future hope is it necessary to be so unnecessary?? :(
 
Mega said:
Not sure about all the racing techincal breeding chat, but I for one think foalie is lovely :-)
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And me:) Baa Baa:D I thought it was a little harsh but TBH I don't know/understand much about racing lines. I could take him off your hands if he doesn't go fast enough though:D
 
My thing is is that there is already far too many tb's being bred for racing as it is when crossing lines that go together let alone ones that are so vastly different they most likely won't work.

The wee foalie is gorgeous and will more than likely go on to be a lovely, sucessful horse for someone but I can't see that happening in racing with the lines it has.
 
I am just so lucky to be able to take advice for our breeding programme from Lord Howard de Waldren's ex stud manager of 25 years, who's father was the leading vet at Newmarket for many years. He has always been very supportive and has commented to some of the racing press, that I have a very deep and knowledable understanding of TB bloodlines.
I shall continue to trust his opinion, over that of anyone on a forum who tells me what they think with out my knowing their full credentials.
 
Wasn't Secretariat Sprinter x Stayer ? believe it was the US Triple Crown he won not the Grand National ?

Don't think this little chap will end up a just another unwanted racehorse if he doesn't succeed...with these bloodlines he certainly would go eventing as a second career :)
 
Little Nell,Hurricanelady,Thank you both xx Thank you Leigh Thank you xx your right there i have a list as long as my arm of peeps that wanted rummy if he was a failed racehorse and that included the wife of a leading trainer! :D
 
Gosh I had forgotten that Cappuccino and Angrove spottedicks grandsire was bred for the flat he ended up jumping puissances he was lazy like his sire! Captain Maverick as he didnt like getting up in the morning.but his full brother Monfarid was a group 1 producing sire of jaque mate chi.
misst thats a very kind offer thank you xx :D
 
Yup, there's loads of horses out there who were bred for one thing and became a champion at something completely different! Wasn't David Broome's horse Philco a flat racer originally?
 
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