Liver enzymes results not good

I'm still monitoring mine too. I've taken a change of tack and am investigating whether elevated liver and muscle enzymes can be caused by chronic pain. I've had a highly qualified human and equine chiropractor out to see mine and from what she said his locomotion system is a mess, he's been doing masses of compensating just to get through and seem 'normal'. I think he's been in chronic pain for a long time and just so wonderfully genuine he never showed me other than in some erratic behaviour and a minor lack of performance. I've stripped all of his supplements (calmer, Alcar, salt, magnesium oxide) out of his diet barring vitamin e (as he is becoming more deficient over time) and he is back on grass. I'd say he is no worse for all of this. The only improvement I've seen in liver and muscle enzymes was when he had a big steroid jab into his sacroiliac. So I am going to get as much treatment as he needs to sort out his mechanical issues and see if making him as comfy as possible reduces his levels. If no joy I will then biopsy for pssm type 2. I think if the blood is full of gunk from the muscles (or gut) the liver must be under stress, so fix one and the liver may come into line.

Or at least I'm hoping so!
 
Hi, I know how you are feeling, but on a happy note my mare was diagnosed with liver disease and sever liver damage following a liver biopsy and prior to that on a lot of meds for about 8 months, why is that happy because this was on the 14th Feb 2007 and Millie is on no medication, still in work and is a happy little mare. It does get you down but finding an answer to why she was ill helped us except it, and we enjoy her every day.
Hope all goes well.
 
well update today and the Liver for the first time in 9 months have gone down and GGT has gone from 260 down to 65. all because I changed to haylage..............................
 
Great to hear all the positives, gives us all hope which is definately needed.Smokey Jo you are all back to normal then except AP not entirely sure what that is but maybe bone related trouble is trying to decifer things as sometimes enzymes are raised after exercise etc you need to be a scientist to work it all out. Suelin could your yearling have liver fluke as that seemed to be one of my mares problems, her bile acids were up and after treatment with fasinex for fluke they are now normal range. felicity cotton socks vit e seems safe for horses but not if selenium is included as its easy to go over the limit and a high oil diet is not good for natives and ponies as it causes insulin resistance and fatty liver, but as Silver fire said her horse is ok so maybe micronised linseed is not a true oil as such.
 
Try not to panic, like I think I said on Facebook, or here, my horse has had high levels for nearly 3 years and although I'm having issues with him now I don't think they are liver related. His GGT went from about 800 to 100 with no action on my part and he was still in work. Don't get me wrong I'm still very worried but trying to give you hope that it's not necessarily an immediate panic. As I said mine went down following steroid to sacroiliac, still trying to understand why. Vets and I are stumped. I have chosen not to biopsy as so hit and miss what they find, but that's just my personal decision based on my pony as a patient. My friends pony had high everything and got treated with the full whack of steroids and antibiotics (he had high bile) and is fine now. think positive!!
 
KatPT, many thanks for your reassuring reply , I was definately in panic mode! Interesting about the steroids but not sure if she could have them as may be a lami risk for her. but great that they had such good knock on effect on you horse . Yes I think I was looking at her and thinking OMG im going to lose you but hopefully we are far from that and hopefully never get there. Will show your reply to my husband put his mind at rest as well. It is hard to decide on the next step because biopsys dont always show anything plus if her enzymes are caused by ulcer/gut problem the stress of travelling will probably make that worse. I also need to decide if it could be pssm2 in which case should I go straight for a muscle biopsy.Have tested for pssm1 and she hasnt got it. Am going to ring vets and see what they say they were a bit busy yesterday so couldnt stay on the phone too long.
 
No problem! Don't get me wrong, I'm still worried that I'm making the wrong choices by not dealing with it more aggressively. Perhaps I'm building up problems for later I don't know. But in himself he has always seemed really well (ignoring the last 6 months when he's trying in quite extreme ways to tell me something is wrong! But don't think it's liver). Mine was 8 when I first blood tested him, I've kept him in full work throughout (well took it easy to start with but he was so full of himself I had to crack on!) and I've just me monitored bloods every few months to make sure I'm not making him worse. So far I can't find a pattern, the highest readings one is middle of winter the other was August, one he was working hard the other he wasn't. One he was on old hay the other new. So frustrating! But he is still full of himself so I try not to worry too much. If I come to any startling revelations I will let you know! But yes a good long chat with your vet is a good start point.
 
thanks KatPT its one thing knowing they have raised enzymes and another knowing what to do for the best isnt it. I have just looked on Trinity consultants ,Roger hatch site and looked at liver. They have a supplement L94 and it sounds good so I may also give them a call to see what they think. am also thinking of getting another horse blood tested to see if any others have it or if its just her.
 
Liver biopsy was booked but she just would not load into the lorry and it all had to be called off. Asked if she could have anti biotics but vet said no. I am now feeding turmeric and starting the sea buckthorn again to help her, turmeric has been proven to reduce liver enzymes. Meanwhile have to work on loading issues before trying again.She looks great coat full of dapples .
 
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