Livery Yard Conspiracy Theories

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When people have stooped so low, share yours.

Many years ago....

I was once told by two liveries (we'll call the A and B) that the YO said I HAD to move into the other stable block (from my lovely big airy stable over looking the yard) into the indoor block (smaller older stables but ok) but when I first moved up there I had the pick of any empty stable I wanted that was not already being used so obviously I chose one of the nicer ones...as you do.

Anyway the same day that I was told my livery person A I was asked by livery person B later on that afternoon by phone call that seen as I had to move into their block, that YO said I had to move into the stable next to hers, I said ok but I've yet to move and need to skip out etc and leave the other stable clean as I found it...as you do. Meanwhile livery B being overly nice and offering to help me get skipped out.

Feeling a little pushed and a little sus and if I'm honest a bit narked off because I was having to move from my nice stable to one ...well not as nice I rang the YO to ask why, he said he didn't have a clue what I was talking about and never told anyone that I had to move stables at all, he said (the other livery B) had rang him to ask if they could have my stable and asked if he could ask me to move as she needed a bigger stable and he said no if you want to swap you can ask her yourself and that the other livery A wanted to start and bring her mare in (restrict her grazing) but wanted another horse next to hers to keep hers company (as I used to bring my horse in over night all year through to keep his weight right).

So turned out that livery B just fancied a bigger stable for when she eventually bred from her mare ( she wanted a bigger box for it to foal in) enough despite the mare not even been covered yet and livery A wanted to be able to bring her mare in over night but didn't want to do it unless she had some company in the next stable.

I rang livery A and told her that I had spoken with YO and he said nothing of the sort (but in a polite way) I gave the chance to admit what they were both up to and come clean but rather than apologise she got all defensive and said that it was important that her horse needed to come in and she can't do it now and all the favours she'd done me (she mucked out a few times a few days before this event, never asked her to and of course I did thank her for her kindness but wondered why she was doing it) so I said explained that I felt very let down and disappointed that I was spun a yarn and lied to, if they had just been honest and told me why then I might of considered it on a temporary basis but because they went behind my back I was not prepared to help or swop stables...then slammed the phone down on me.
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Mentioned it to the livery B the next time I saw her and she just laughed and said well I wanted your stable its better than mine!
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and thought the whole thing was rather funny
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YO said they he knew what they were up to and that they tried to take advantage of you because your quite soft etc and didn't think that you'd ring me to check.

I felt very hurt and it still annoys me to this day.
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Same person (thankfully not on our yard anymore) the second time I met her she gloated to that when she was on her previous livery yard, they used to feed on of the other girls horses oats behind her back to make it stupid, I said it it dangerous and not at all funny, she smirked and said well we all did thought it was.

How can people be so evil? The first year being at a livery yard was a real eye opener, i was just in tears all the time on how people acted.
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Thankfully its not like that anymore as they have moved on.
 
OMG that is shocking - ive experienced bitching and backbiting but that REALLY takes the mick - what goes around comes around though - im sure they will get their comeuppance.
 
I couldn't begin to tell you about the one I was at!!!

Needless to say, I moved...to my own place, you should have seen the look on their faces!!!
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, just copy a picture on photobucket, then use the edit options, I used colour rotate, then border and added some text, nothing to it honest and messed around for ages trying to get the size down, photo bucket seems to play tricks on you sometimes and has a huge time delay when you have re-sized something.
 
I get hassle down my yard regularly. Some girl (not the full shilling) wanted an arguement over a broom. Ive never seen anything like it. Now she has taken the broom, locked it up and painted it pink. Poor girl - get a life, needs help etc.
 
When people have stooped so low, share yours.
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Mine was a few years ago when I bought a youngster off the yard I was liveried at and the owner was going to back him for me. Anyway he made a hash of it and his partner said the best thing I could do for the horse was move him. So I gave in my notice and on the day I went to collect my two horses they had padlocked the gates and taken the shoes off the youngster. Presumably so his new trainer couldn't work him and I would waste livery money till the farrier had been. Complete idiot.
 
Oh dear, well its a ok now but I guess when you first move somewhere people take advantage and being the new girl (this is going back 7 years ago now) one of them been there since it started thought they could get there own way I guess, I know I act a bit blonde sometimes and yes I do joke about a lot and it doesnt help being the most gullable person in the world lol but I'd at least I'd never even think up such a thing let do something like that.
 
i had the same thing when i borrowed a shavings fork that had been left in a old stable unused for ages i put it back and then next day thort i'd use it again and found that it had been tied to the beem next to where it was left (by owner i put it back where i found it) so i thort i'd piss them off and cut it down used it again and put it back untied lol
next day the owner of the fork had taken it back to our main yard hence the reason i borrowed it as was the only one down there!!!! i thort it was so petty as she wasnt even using it!!!!!
another incident with a different livery i got down the yard to find my stable mucked out all good i thort but then went to fill my haynet and found that a load of hay had been nicked!!! what a cheek!!!

liveries are funny creatures and should be treated with caution!!!!
 
Assistant YM was the one at a yard we used to be at. Woe betide you if you borrowed any of her mucking out tools, even for a second or tied your horse up in the only safte tie up place when she wanted to use it.
I also asked the YM to swap stables across the yard as my rather neurotic mare was being driven insane by her neighbour who kicked his door incessantly and stamped and pawed as soon as the feed room door was opened. YM felt my request was reasonable and said yes but her assistant was mighily offended and suggested that I would be eyeing up her stable next (huge foaling box - no thanks too much mucking out!).
Once she worked out that I couldn't give a monkeys about her catty remarks and childish behaviour she moved onto her next victim
 
that is pretty shocking Kenzo! i can't believe the cheek of some people at times!

i loved my old yard (4 years ago), and i am still very good friends with the YO, whom i'd known since i was about 12, so 14 years now. i used to work there, varying between part time and full time dependent on school/uni etc.

there was a livery who kept 2 horses there, one of which had tweaked something in the field, and as a precaution (very expensive new mare, a little scatty!) kept her in for a couple of weeks. she was bandaging her up in front to help support and was using elasticated bandaged (i know, i know) under gamgee and a stable bandage. unfortunately the lady became extremely ill with flu and couldn't come down for about 5/6 days. the yard was full livery so we were taking care of her anyway, and started doing her bandages when the owner got sick. i think i did them on a friday morning, was away for the weekend and came back on monday night (also kept my mare there on full). may i just say now that i am not inexperienced at bandaging, but i had my reservations on using the elastic bandage, and said so to the YO at the time. i don't know how many times i've gone through it in my head, wishing that i'd made the decision to not use it.

anyway, monday comes round and the owner is back, i went to say hello from a distance (was quite friendly with her) and the YO called me over really quickly before the owner could reply. it turns out that the bandage hadn't been re-done since i had done it on the friday morning (the request was twice daily), and the poor horses leg was in a bit of a state
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i just felt like falling in a heap and crying, i just felt so guilty! fair enough, i accept that i did the bandage and that it was my fault. however, the YO asked for me to say that i had done the bandage that morning, which therefore meant that all the damage had been done that day, insinuating that i had essentially wrapped the bandage very tightly. the hair fell off her leg and i'm not sure if there was a little scarring or infection. suffice to say i felt awful. the yard stumped up all vets bills and i believe that the horse is 100% fine to this day.

but it meant that all liveries had absolutely no faith in me for months, gossip was rife and everything i did was double checked and questioned. i suppose in a way i was thankful the damage hadn't been done in just polo bandages, but were instead an arcaic form of bandages that should have had something underneath, so part of the blame was in the tools as well if that makes any sense?!?! i was the acting YM when the YO was away, and it took ages regain confidence from others.

i actually still get very upset about this. the owner barely spoke to me again, and there was nothing i could say as the yard was fairly new and the YO was my friend and i couldn't destroy her business
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i've had people assume that i would move stables. Like you i was in largest box overlooking lovely fields, was very happy! then another horse went on box rest and they assumed i would move so that their horse would be able to see out to the fields and have more room. was never actually asked! and they also assumed i would let them use all my rubber matting we had spent hundreds on and loads of time fitting to THAT stable! very rude.
 
My friend and I were asked to move into the two new stables that were being built out the back of the main barn so a new livery that was arriving could have her two round the front and next to each other as she didn't know anyone so didn't want to be on her own round the back. We jumped at the chance as the 2 round the back is like being in your own private yard (now have just my two round there) and you keep out of everyones way avoid the gossip etc. At the time new liveries friend (who is now an x livery) was really smug as she thought she had really put us out and told people that and they all thought we were the mad ones as we wouldn't be in the big yard with all of them - didn't take them long to realise who got the better end of the deal
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.....6 years on I still get them asking if I ever move/only need one stable etc can they have them.......
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the worse thing i have ever encountered on a livery yard, was one night i was putting my tack back into the tack room after riding my mare and livery X and her instructor came, so we polite exchanged greetings, then they started a conversation about how cruel it is to keep horse A alive (43yr old well cared for ect) anyway they continue this coversation, then the trainer goes if my horse went lame i would have it shot, so i turned round and said was that aimed at me? to which i had both start on me telling me i should have my 17yr old TB PTS cos he couldn't work any longer(due to feet issues). they were really going at me until my YO came in a told them to lay off me.

to this day i have never forgiven the livery for that but anywho i got the last laugh my lame horse that couldn't be ridden after months of hard work by me and my fantastic farrier, he is now sound and being ridden again, PTS i think not!!!
 
when i was 12 i was at a livery yard and YO was building me and my mum our own stables away from all the gossip etc. anyway i brought my pony in from the field and tied her up in the main block of stables as where we tie ours up normally was covered in nails and dusty and wasnt horse safe. however, i went over to get my grooming kit as one of the liveries from the main block walked in, saw my pony and compleatly over reacted. she untide her and led her over to where the building work was and was shouting at me that i was irrisponsible and that she was bringing her 'agressive youngster' over and she was tied in his place. fair enough but she wasnt there when i was so i didnt know!! i still see her and a number of times she has tried to 'give me advise' or has atempted to dominate me, however now im bigger, i just tell her to F*** off. needless to say, my mum is now proud of me
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*shakes head* after reading these, I don't think some people think before they speak and act, surely they can't be that bad can they?
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This post is reassuring me
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Bella is kept on grass livery
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Seriously though I cannot see the point in causing someone else so much grief and upset. Some folks must really have too much time on their hands
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Oh god! I have to move onto livery soon from having my own lovely quiet field. This post is not filling me with hope!
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Don't worry, there are thousands of perfectly happy livery clients out there, but you will only ever hear the bad news. Who would ever post just to say that they love their yard and get on really well with everybody there?

Although...

actually i do love my yard, the people are all nice, we all get on, we all look out for each other's horses - it's great.
 
Me too, I have to say I'm really careful about moves, and only got it wrong once. I was there just over a week...
The yard I am at now is small, just 4 of us there and 5 horses, we all help each other out and it's great.
Here's the one I moved from. I had 4 horses, one a temporary re-hab, and volunteered to move so my friend could stay where we were and have room for a couple more. I was offered a big field for £25 per week. It needed electric fencing inside the boundary for safety. Water was obtained by dragging a long hose about 100 feet to the field and filling a big tub. I had a tiny concrete area of hard standing at the side of the drive. I couldn't take my horses on to the main yard if the liveries using stables were there, if I did I couldn't tie up a haynet in case it blew into the garden, and I could only use the little arena if nobody else (the first-class liveries!) was using it. But, I only really need grass livery, and although the field needed a lot of work it was nice and big, about 4 acres, with lots of natural shelter, and hacking was good... I spent a lot of money on electric fencing and a whole day putting it up before I moved my horses.
At the end of the first week I paid my £25. To be told that it wasn't £25 per week - it was per horse.
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Just to add to what mother hen said, i am happy at my yard, and everyone else is very nice, that livery is leaving now anyway. i would like to say that was a one off issue with that particular person but it wasn't, but she is going and thats that.
 
That's awful Kenzo!
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Well, we used to keep our horses on a livery yard with a very petty YO. I have many, many examples of the stupid things he would say, far too many to write them all on here. So here are just a few:

- One of the requirements on this yard was that all horses were to be fed their morning feed by the YO regardless of what type of livery you were on and so you had to make the feed up the night before, which isn't ideal. So we bought bucket covers for our feed buckets to try and keep the feed fresher. We also asked YO to dampen the feed in the morning before he fed our horses. He flatly refused and said he didn't have time to be messing about with water, and also the bucket covers were too much hassle and took FAR to long to take off so we weren't allowed to use them either.
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and when he asked me if I understood this I said, 'no not really, as it really wouldn't take you that long'
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Which didn't go down very well!
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He was one of those men who are very sexist, and believe that men are above women.
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We also had some errm 'nice' liveries at this yard: one who called my mum a fat, lazy cow!
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and the final straw was when my pony managed to get caught up in the electric fencing in the field (which wasn't electric anymore because the battery had ran out (YO said we had to fix it and buy a new one even though we were paying for him to maintain the fencing!) and hadn't been replaced) and the livery heard us complaining and aid 'well why don't you just leave then'
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Honestly, the rudeness of some people!

Anyway, needless to say we had made up our minds that we were going to leave so we rang up our old YO and asked her if we could move back and luckily she said yes and we moved the very next day!

There's my story!
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Mostly I love my yard (I've been there 12 years), I can think of a few instances where b*tching/stirring has gone on but YO usually sorts it out.

I don't b*tch behind peoples backs and admit that I have upset people once or twice with my opinions.

A year or so ago I did end up having a arguement with someone over a stable (she was a very rude teenager) and was also told that YO said my friend and I couldn't turn out at night rather than in the day which turned out to be a complete lie!

Funnily enough the same two people have been involved in every arguement or bit of b*tching we have had and everyone knows what they are like now.
 
Mines quite recent so still a bit raw. Bit of background. Been on DIY farm for over forty years even moved house to be near the horses. Its council leased so original farmer family gave it up 2 years ago and somebody else took it on. At same time new livery came and got on very well with farmer. I thought we were friends.I put her 3 horses out for six weeks when she broke her leg. Lent her money for a pony which she paid back monthly and she helped me when my old pony was put down. She decided to move and in her travels met another girl who came to our yard and she decided to stay. One day she said to me You are not paying for your paddock V is having it from tomorrow. I was shocked as I had just put in farmers door cash for my 3 grass liveries and paddock. She said he is going to phone you. Welll within half hour he was on phone f & b whats this money you have paid. I said what it was for and he said Well the rents went up in October so you weren't paying for your paddock. This was now February. They just concocted their little plan so new girl; could have my paddock which I had waited ten years for. Needlessly to say I moved pronto. You can't trust anybody.
 
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