Liveryman Harmony v Wahl Avalon?

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I'm on a budget looking for mains-free clippers. These two brands seem to be well known for exactly that.
Can anyone recommend one way or the other?

I have two cobs that I will need to clip. This can be every 2months in winter (trace or chaser clips, not full)... Their coat is thick, but not coarse (wirey) like some.
 
I have the Wahl Avalon clippers and absolutely love them. Very easy to use, nice clean lines and can get in all the awkward spots, cope with multiple whorl areas etc. My boys were very clipper phobic until I got these clippers and now just stand there with the lead rein chucked over their necks.
 
vetsbestfriend said:
I have the Wahl Avalon clippers and absolutely love them. Very easy to use, nice clean lines and can get in all the awkward spots, cope with multiple whorl areas etc. My boys were very clipper phobic until I got these clippers and now just stand there with the lead rein chucked over their necks.
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This is good to know!! Can these be run from the mains if needs be? And do you have hairy horses like me?
 
I love my harmony plus'!
My horse was incredibly clipper phobic to the point of blind panic, rearing up and putting his head through a roof when clippers were turned on near his stable. I can give him a full clip except his head with the harmonys and i would have happily taken him out showing the day after i clipped him if hr would let me do his head
 
Thanks for the reply... What type of coat does your boy have? I worry with the harmonys that they wouldn't be as 'workhorse' as the avalons. The avalons seem to claim they'll tackle hogging manes/feather the lot? But the harmonys describe themselves as slimline and gentle etc?
 
I have the harmony and they have been great for both my WBs, neither with enormously thick coats. Old boy was 'bad to clip' for my YO with big clippers but fine with the harmony, and my new boy had his first clip as a rising 4yo with them and made nothing of it. Very lightvand confortable to hold. My friend used them on her thicker coated IDXTB and although she didn't abuse them or anything they have never been quite the same since. Although they are very quiet and great for horses who aren't fond of clipping, they wouldn't be my choice for a couple of hairy cobs.
 
L&B said:
Thanks for the reply... What type of coat does your boy have? I worry with the harmonys that they wouldn't be as 'workhorse' as the avalons. The avalons seem to claim they'll tackle hogging manes/feather the lot? But the harmonys describe themselves as slimline and gentle etc?
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mine is a hairy yak who likes to wallow in mud and hasnt had a bath in 18 months. he is part ID, part traditional cob, part TB and believe me his coat is all trad cob. He is clipped all year round as his coat is horrendous! I took the caked on mud off him and gave him a quick flick with a brush and set to!
this is a picture of him the day AFTER his latest clip, I left his head and legs on this time, but the clippers have never struggled with them.
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I love my liveryman harmonys I clip off the mains with mine but they do struggle with thick coats. I have clipped cobs, hogged, feathers off and a shetland, even my pony who's coat has got thicker as she's aged can still be clipped with them but it takes ages. They need regular hair -declogging!
 
I love my Harmony Plus clippers, they are very quiet, comfortable to hold and they do a good job. They are super at getting to the tricky bits such as heels, faces and elbows. Snapping the blades on and off takes a little practice to get the right technique, but is easy once you know how.

However, I wouldn't care to do a full clip on a big hairy horse with them. The Harmonys are back up to my main clippers, the full size Heiniger Xplorers, which eat through woolly coats. I start with the Xplorer and finish off the tricky bits with the Harmonys.

I appreciate that not everyone can afford, or would want, two sets of clippers though!
 
I have Liveryman Harmony and I love them but wouldn't recommend them for a thick coat. They can struggle getting through my warmblood's bum hair and it's not a coarse coat.
 
I hated my moser Avalons. They just used to refuse to clip sometimes, despite the blades being sharpened and them being put on correctly. Apparently, having spoken to a few clipper companies/experts, this is quite a common issue with them due to the fact they use snap on blades and don't need to be tensioned.

I must add, when they did clip, they were amazing. The quietest things ever and so lost and easy. But more often than not I ended up with a half clipped pony or they wouldn't clip at all.
 
9tails said:
I have Liveryman Harmony and I love them but wouldn't recommend them for a thick coat. They can struggle getting through my warmblood's bum hair and it's not a coarse coat.
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I would suggest then that you need to get your blades looked at by a decent sharpening Company, due to the heat and vibration generated when you clip a horse the tension on the blades will get fractionaly less each time. I take mine to the lovely man at razorsharp and he tightens them to the correct tension for me.
I clip all year round with my lad, my blades do not need sharpening often (approx every 5 clips depending on how filthy the creature has been when I clipped him) but I do get the tension reset on them every couple of full clips.
 
conniegirl said:
I would suggest then that you need to get your blades looked at by a decent sharpening Company, due to the heat and vibration generated when you clip a horse the tension on the blades will get fractionaly less each time. I take mine to the lovely man at razorsharp and he tightens them to the correct tension for me.
I clip all year round with my lad, my blades do not need sharpening often (approx every 5 clips depending on how filthy the creature has been when I clipped him) but I do get the tension reset on them every couple of full clips.
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Thanks for your advice, but they struggled on the first day brand new and I buy new blades rather than get them sharpened. There is no way of changing the tension on clip on blades.
 
9tails said:
Thanks for your advice, but they struggled on the first day brand new and I buy new blades rather than get them sharpened. There is no way of changing the tension on clip on blades.
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yes there is, the 2 screws at the back of the blades, tighten/loosen them to change the tension. Its a very fiddly job to do as you have to get both sides perfectly balanced which takes some time which is why I get my sharpening man to do it.
I've got about 4 sets of blades and I have to say when I bought them the tension was wrong on 2 of the sets of blades.
 
9tails said:
You clip your horse all year round, you don't ask your clippers to go through a fully grown winter coat.
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I have this year, as he missed a couple of clips in succession due to various events happening in my life and his lameness meaning he wasnt in work. He had a good 6" full winter coat a week ago, now he doesnt.
 
I have a Connemara and I clipped him out last week using my harmony clippers. I was a bit worried as he has a thick coat esp over his bum and he wasn't the cleanest! But they did great!
I am so pleased with them! I will need to get blades sharpened now as he was very hairy in places and dirty underneath but the blades had already done 2 reclips on him last winter and legs several times over summer. I even managed to bib clip my friends horse at straight after on the same charge!
I think they are great for the average horse owner.
 
L&B said:
This is good to know!! Can these be run from the mains if needs be? And do you have hairy horses like me?
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Can't run from mains, but the battery lasts for a few hours. Can easily clip both of mine with 1 charge. One of mine is TB x ID and get quite a thick coat, no problems at all clipping.
 
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