k1963
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I don't drink coffee either - prefer yer actual Tetleys with loads of sugar
Liz Jones and fitting in on Exmoor.
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Spudlet
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Tea? TEA??????
I would die without coffee... there is no blood in my veins just caffeine!
Having read through some of Liz Jones' archive out of sheer curiosity / boredom I actually feel a bit sorry for her - boy does she ever have issues! Just a shame she chooses to do her therapy in a national newspaper...
ETA: Nescafe instant works for me though. I need to get my caffeine hits fast!
I would die without coffee... there is no blood in my veins just caffeine!
Having read through some of Liz Jones' archive out of sheer curiosity / boredom I actually feel a bit sorry for her - boy does she ever have issues! Just a shame she chooses to do her therapy in a national newspaper...
ETA: Nescafe instant works for me though. I need to get my caffeine hits fast!
red marksman
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I heard her on Woman's Hour this morning. She said that the only person she had ever criticised was herself . I have never read her columns and was prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt but I did get the feeling that she was very defensive and a bit prickly- not ideal characteristics if you are trying to fit into a community. However I don't think her comments warrant physical attacks on her property- they will be shouting 'Witch!!' next - I thought we had moved on as a civilisation from all that.
k1963
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Not in Norfolk , we haven't
. A woman wrote to the local paper saying Norfolk people were thick & inbred - she had to be moved to a safe house
After nearly 25 years living here , I am still ' A Foreigner '
After nearly 25 years living here , I am still ' A Foreigner '
Spudlet
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I moved to Norfolk too and I'm still alive
TBH if you write nasty letters in the local paper expressing your distaste for a huge group of people you have to expect grief - although needing police protection does seem a little severe!
However I have a pressing question - Hunter wellies. Are they really for townies? Really??? Cos I've had mine for years and they're great and I don't want to feel the need to get new ones....
In mitigation they have mud and poo on them and the buckles have gone rusty - does this help?
However I have a pressing question - Hunter wellies. Are they really for townies? Really??? Cos I've had mine for years and they're great and I don't want to feel the need to get new ones....
In mitigation they have mud and poo on them and the buckles have gone rusty - does this help?
kombikids
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im with you - a revolting woman from her portrayal in her column/book. i wonder how much she writes is actually true, because if it is she does have serious issues. i guess tho if she wrote about how great and happy she was she wouldnt get so much publicity.
i wish someone would come along and take all her money away and then she would actually realise how bl**dy hard it is to live in the west country for the majoirty of people and would start having to worry about real issues rather than all the rubbish that she thinks is important.
i wish someone would come along and take all her money away and then she would actually realise how bl**dy hard it is to live in the west country for the majoirty of people and would start having to worry about real issues rather than all the rubbish that she thinks is important.
muffinino
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Her parting shot was that she's moving to Wales. I'm not keen on the Welsh but they don't deserve her as a neighbour.
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Sh&t, I'm moving to England then!
Also, what's wrong with the Welsh, may I ask?
Her parting shot was that she's moving to Wales. I'm not keen on the Welsh but they don't deserve her as a neighbour.
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Sh&t, I'm moving to England then!
Spot_the_Risk
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I have no idea who Liz Jones is, obviously never buying a national paper is a good move!
k1963
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I moved to Norfolk too and I'm still alive
TBH if you write nasty letters in the local paper expressing your distaste for a huge group of people you have to expect grief - although needing police protection does seem a little severe!
However I have a pressing question - Hunter wellies. Are they really for townies? Really??? Cos I've had mine for years and they're great and I don't want to feel the need to get new ones....
In mitigation they have mud and poo on them and the buckles have gone rusty - does this help?
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I got a pair of Hunter welies when I first moved here - lived in a village that had no pavements , so they were ideal for crossing the green to get to the shop . They lasted for years & were only replaced when I had to stop riding . Got Joules ones now , although the fit is poor ( baggy around the ankles .)
I think a lot of people don't realise that poverty isn't just confined to inner-city & urban areas . Public transport is very poor here - you really do need a car to get you to your job ( & jobs are scarce . )
Living in Essex , we had great public transport - the tube , buses , etc . My husband ( owner of black Hunter wellies , btw
) , took driving lessons as soon as we got here which was just as well .
I'm with you though - what wellies should we incomers wear ?
I moved to Norfolk too and I'm still alive
However I have a pressing question - Hunter wellies. Are they really for townies? Really??? Cos I've had mine for years and they're great and I don't want to feel the need to get new ones....
In mitigation they have mud and poo on them and the buckles have gone rusty - does this help?
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I got a pair of Hunter welies when I first moved here - lived in a village that had no pavements , so they were ideal for crossing the green to get to the shop . They lasted for years & were only replaced when I had to stop riding . Got Joules ones now , although the fit is poor ( baggy around the ankles .)
I think a lot of people don't realise that poverty isn't just confined to inner-city & urban areas . Public transport is very poor here - you really do need a car to get you to your job ( & jobs are scarce . )
Living in Essex , we had great public transport - the tube , buses , etc . My husband ( owner of black Hunter wellies , btw
I'm with you though - what wellies should we incomers wear ?
k1963
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I have no idea who Liz Jones is, obviously never buying a national paper is a good move!
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Trust me - you're better off not knowing
I have no idea who Liz Jones is, obviously never buying a national paper is a good move!
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Trust me - you're better off not knowing
cronkmooar
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Have to agree with the hunters comment - never owned a pair in my life. They have always given me the impression that those that wear them are just playing at being the out door type
sorry all hunter fans
What you need to do is get down the local traders and buy some of the dunlop steel toe cap ones £11.99 last for years total bargin
What you need to do is get down the local traders and buy some of the dunlop steel toe cap ones £11.99 last for years total bargin
zsmm4
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LOL
k1963
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Aw , I loved my Hunters
Mind you , I'm a surbanite really , so might get myself a pair
Mind you , I'm a surbanite really , so might get myself a pair
Ravenwood
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Grrr - don't get me started again!!
She does NOT live on Exmoor - her house is outside the National Park Boundary. She is on the outskirts of a village just a couple of miles out of town - she is NOT isolated, remote or on the moors.
Come on everyone, sit up and smell the coffee - she has just released a book and now she has a peppered mail box that has caused hysteria in the media - what do you think?
She thought it was fine that her dog worried and killed sheep for Gods Sake - she cannot ride her horse without her horse behaviouralist walking with her, etc etc.
The house she bought was beautiful and ok so yes she has had builders in and employs a gardener - so do most of the retired Home Counties people that buy houses here.
I could go on and on - but it just makes me so cross!
She does NOT live on Exmoor - her house is outside the National Park Boundary. She is on the outskirts of a village just a couple of miles out of town - she is NOT isolated, remote or on the moors.
Come on everyone, sit up and smell the coffee - she has just released a book and now she has a peppered mail box that has caused hysteria in the media - what do you think?
She thought it was fine that her dog worried and killed sheep for Gods Sake - she cannot ride her horse without her horse behaviouralist walking with her, etc etc.
The house she bought was beautiful and ok so yes she has had builders in and employs a gardener - so do most of the retired Home Counties people that buy houses here.
I could go on and on - but it just makes me so cross!
CorvusCorax
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Come on everyone, sit up and smell the coffee
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Would that be Illy coffee?
God, I am an Irish muck savage and even I know it is a swanky Italian brand
Come on everyone, sit up and smell the coffee
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Would that be Illy coffee?
God, I am an Irish muck savage and even I know it is a swanky Italian brand
PippiPantoPony
Chocolatier and Greyhound lover
"even I know it is a swanky Italian brand "
In a shiny silver tin with red writing.
*the only reason i know is coz i went & looked for it in waitrose yesterday to see what the fuss was about*
In a shiny silver tin with red writing.
*the only reason i know is coz i went & looked for it in waitrose yesterday to see what the fuss was about*
BBH
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I've a lot to learn - thought all coffee was wet [ QUOTE ]
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LOL - Wet = without foam/ froth whatever you wanna call it
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LOL - Wet = without foam/ froth whatever you wanna call it
k1963
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Thanks - I get it now
Spudlet
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What you need to do is get down the local traders and buy some of the dunlop steel toe cap ones £11.99 last for years total bargin
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Sod that, I refuse to buy new wellies until my current pair actually disintegrate and fall from my feet - now that's country
What you need to do is get down the local traders and buy some of the dunlop steel toe cap ones £11.99 last for years total bargin
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Sod that, I refuse to buy new wellies until my current pair actually disintegrate and fall from my feet - now that's country
Weezy
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ARGH this woman gets my goat - good on (bugger, forgotten her name already) Johnson for saying her piece.
When I moved here no one came to say hello either, I felt rather insulted, but over the 5 years we have been here we have got out there and made friends! It is no good sitting and griping if you have not made an effort either. I was lucky that I had made a couple of local friends from here (great for that sort of thing!) as I was leaving all of my *real* friends behind - all of these new people are now my *real* friends and the others are good friends who I see once or twice a year!
Shot pellets in the mail box - HA HA, she was asking for that by putting something shiny and new on her fence!
When I moved here no one came to say hello either, I felt rather insulted, but over the 5 years we have been here we have got out there and made friends! It is no good sitting and griping if you have not made an effort either. I was lucky that I had made a couple of local friends from here (great for that sort of thing!) as I was leaving all of my *real* friends behind - all of these new people are now my *real* friends and the others are good friends who I see once or twice a year!
Shot pellets in the mail box - HA HA, she was asking for that by putting something shiny and new on her fence!
Swirlymurphy
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You're nothing until you've worn plastic bags in your wellies because they've got so many holes in
I live in Surrey and I didn't know what Illy coffee was either - does that make me an outsider too?
Nor do I shop in Waitrose actually. I don't have Hunters either. And oh larks, my children go to state school.
Blimey I'm such a pleb
I live in Surrey and I didn't know what Illy coffee was either - does that make me an outsider too?
Nor do I shop in Waitrose actually. I don't have Hunters either. And oh larks, my children go to state school.
Blimey I'm such a pleb
Spudlet
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Do bread bags under your riding boots to stop your feet from freezing right off in winter count?
I don't think we have a Waitrose round here
I don't think we have a Waitrose round here
the watcher
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To address a couple of issues - I don't think Liz Jones is being vilified because she is a woman specifically. Yes Jeremy Clarkson makes many similar observations but he does it with wit and charm, he is hugely supportive to the community in which he lives, giving up his time to charitable events, shopping locally (and if he wants fancy Italian coffee he has the good sense to go to the nearest Waitrose and not whine). LJ appears to have very few of these redeeming features.
The critical mistake she has made in her column is to be too personal, to identify herself too clearly, so that what might have been an occasional entertianing read, but work partly of fiction or at least exaggeration, is now interpreted as the truth and her opinion.
To address a couple of issues - I don't think Liz Jones is being vilified because she is a woman specifically. Yes Jeremy Clarkson makes many similar observations but he does it with wit and charm, he is hugely supportive to the community in which he lives, giving up his time to charitable events, shopping locally (and if he wants fancy Italian coffee he has the good sense to go to the nearest Waitrose and not whine). LJ appears to have very few of these redeeming features.
The critical mistake she has made in her column is to be too personal, to identify herself too clearly, so that what might have been an occasional entertianing read, but work partly of fiction or at least exaggeration, is now interpreted as the truth and her opinion.
HumBugsey
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Can I point out that Illy coffee isn't even very good..... it's just another brand, not "real" coffee. You get it in vending machines! lol
Oh I have hunters! I love them, but they are the only pair I've ever had and are 10years old and still going strong! I like fitted wellies and I think they were on offer when I got them... lol
It makes me laugh about her being "on" exmoor, everyone in ND thinks they are on exmoor. South Molton is apparently "The Gateway to Exmoor" yet.... it's 2 miles from the border and to get to it you have to cross a spur of the moor! PMSL
Oh I have hunters! I love them, but they are the only pair I've ever had and are 10years old and still going strong! I like fitted wellies and I think they were on offer when I got them... lol
It makes me laugh about her being "on" exmoor, everyone in ND thinks they are on exmoor. South Molton is apparently "The Gateway to Exmoor" yet.... it's 2 miles from the border and to get to it you have to cross a spur of the moor! PMSL
k1963
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A Hunter welly fan !( Mine were a bit manky as they'd been in the shop window & were a bit sun damaged . ) Lasted for years though & I got them cheap as they were shop soiled .
I've been to South Molton , very nice , but hardly the back of beyond - now if we were talking about The Isle Of Skye , I could understand - thought I was going to fall off the edge of the world , if you see what I mean
I've been to South Molton , very nice , but hardly the back of beyond - now if we were talking about The Isle Of Skye , I could understand - thought I was going to fall off the edge of the world , if you see what I mean
Swirlymurphy
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Bread bags....good idea!
Digressing slightly - did anyone hear Stephen Fry on Just a Minute when he said the purpose of Sainsburys was to keep the oiks out of Waitrose? Hysterical, until I realised that meant I was an oik!
Let's face it there will always be places where 'newcomers' find it difficult to settle in - but it doesn't have to end in open warfare. Get active in village life, get out there, get involved with the schools/hunt/pony club etc etc and start meeting people.
I think as someone said earlier, it is no coincidence that Ms Jones has a book out and the publicity - good or bad - will mean that sales go up. She's a canny operator.
Digressing slightly - did anyone hear Stephen Fry on Just a Minute when he said the purpose of Sainsburys was to keep the oiks out of Waitrose? Hysterical, until I realised that meant I was an oik!
Let's face it there will always be places where 'newcomers' find it difficult to settle in - but it doesn't have to end in open warfare. Get active in village life, get out there, get involved with the schools/hunt/pony club etc etc and start meeting people.
I think as someone said earlier, it is no coincidence that Ms Jones has a book out and the publicity - good or bad - will mean that sales go up. She's a canny operator.
zsmm4
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I've just read the Rachel Johnson article from the link. Excellent, well put, to the point.
Spudlet
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Sainsburys? You posho, I'm an Asda and Lidl girl myself so goodness know what that makes me in the eyes of Ms Jones - one step up from pond scum I expect
Re bread bags - they never really worked that well, I just ended up with sweaty yet cold feet that had Hovis printed across them where the printing on the bag rubbed pff and crumbs between my toes
Now I just wear as many pairs of socks as I can fit on instead!
Re bread bags - they never really worked that well, I just ended up with sweaty yet cold feet that had Hovis printed across them where the printing on the bag rubbed pff and crumbs between my toes
k1963
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I've got a Waitrose where I live - ner , ner , ner , ner , ner
Can't join in the bread bag debate as since becoming Mrs . Menopause , I feel boiling in the coldest weather !
Wonder if Ms.Jones has read any of this thread ?
Can't join in the bread bag debate as since becoming Mrs . Menopause , I feel boiling in the coldest weather !
Wonder if Ms.Jones has read any of this thread ?
JM07
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she is a whinging old trout...
typical townie moves to the country...
typical townie moves to the country...