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Well technically it's not loading help that I need. He loads OK but then tries to shoot back down the ramp/panics when partitions are moved.

Bit of history. I've had my X-Racer for about 9 years. I didn't have my own transport up until about 3 years ago so during the first 4 years I didn't really travel him anywhere. We tried to load him once into a lorry but gave up after an hour or so, he just wouldn't go near it, was rearing, throwing himself around and generally being a tit. Trailers he would load into but as soon as he felt the breech bar start to go up he would panic, shoot out backwards plowing through anyone that was stupid enough to be stood behind him.

I eventually got my own trailer,but unfortunately couldn't tow it so relied on none horsey stepdad to take me anywhere. This meant we were lucky if we got to go out more the twice a year :cool:

Having my own trailer meant I could do lots of work with him and he gradually built up his confidence about travelling. Would lead him through it a few times before putting the ramp up, and the breeching bar wouldn't be fastened until the ramp was up etc (I'd go down the other partition and reach across and do it up) It took up until I sold the trailer for me to feel any where near confident that we would have no issues with him loading/travelling but if I had taken him out more often I'm sure he'd have got over it a lot quicker.

Recently I had to load him into a strange trailer and he almost dragged me up the ramp and was perfect whilst breech bar, then ramp was put up. So great, we've cracked the trailer issue but now I have a lorry I have a new problem to overcome!

I haven't travelled him in the lorry yet, I'm not someone that will get him in and then slam the ramp up and drive off, I don't want to put him off for good. So far I have just practiced loading him. He initially refused to go up the ramp but did get over that very quickly. He then needed to learn not to panic when he got to the top and was asked to move his quarters over. This is still a work in progress. He is better and now knows what I want from him but he doesn't offer it up himself/doesn't always listen when asked. He tends to shift round quickly then rush to the top of the ramp, usually he then stands there looking out without too much worry. When asked to back up and shift over he gets really uptight.

Over Christmas I had a good session with him where he got to the stage of going up the ramp, shifting his quarters over and standing in the position he would need to be in for me to move the partitions over. I then tried to move the partition slightly (no intention of closing it right over at that stage) and he barged passed me and down the ramp. Went back a step and got him settled again before finishing the session.

For various reasons I hadn't tried again till today. Again I just worked on getting him confident moving his quarters over. He wasn't too bad at first but then decided he'd had enough so dragged me down the ramp a couple of times. He got a few reminders of his manners and I put the rope round his nose for good measures (he was just being rude and silly) and then loaded him twice, both times making him stand in the right position until I told him to move. He wasn't happy about it but did do as he was asked.

Has anyone got any ideas on how to make this easier for him? How to get him used to the partitions moving etc? I think part of the problem is he is scared to 'touch' anything around him, he stands really hunched up trying to avoid the partition that's already closed next to him and the side of the lorry behind where his bum is.

I am beginning to think he will never settle enough for me to feel happy taking him out in it! Feeding him in it won't work, he'll take treats from me sometimes but he won't eat a meal in there, not a chance. So any ideas?

I'm going to try again this afternoon and as often as I can through the week.
 
Personally I would take him in and tie him up, then ask him to move over stand with him.
Gradually close the partitions. If possible give him loads of space (stable sized), then gradually decrease.
Practise and calm is all you need!
 
Will your partition fasten so it is set to give him more space? I've had horses very unhappy about being penned up tight, but quite content with wide or even no partition
 
Could you not have some hay tied up ready? And wait until he starts to have a munch. Cuz if he was that nervous he wouldn't be thinking about his stomachThen once he's settled tie him up wait a few mins, then take him back up and make him stand a few more mins each time. That's what I'd do
 
He won't eat hay in the lorry, I don't even travel him with a haynet in a trailer now as he never touches it.

He's got two sections of the lorry to stand in really as I haven't got as far as Closing the partition on him.
 
Do you have another person who could help you until he s settled enough to close the partition?
If so,I would have something like a horse rug or wind break,hang it on a partition,and when he is settled enough,get said helper to move that to eventually go round him,with the vague idea of desensitising him? Before moving onto partition.
Will he accept tit bits to distract him,polos can be useful for distraction and stressy types. Wouldnt usually use them,but having also had a problem loader-and ended up at Kelly Marks who helped us lots- anything is worth a try.
 
Few things I can think of:

If you want to shut partition you will need a helper as trying to hold horse/shut partition at same time means your body language will be signalling him to walk off lorry and trying to manage partition and horse at same time is not a good idea!

Also load on a lunge line as currently every time he bolts off you come running down the ramp with him when really you need to stay in lorry so a) he knows you're not scared of it either and b) he knows he can't just tow you around

DON't TIE HIM UP! At best he will rip your lorry side to pieces and at worst injure himself if he tries to bolt off!

I also wonder if he's yet completely comfortable just standing in the lorry yet i.e. would be stand on really calm, eating, snoozing etc if not then there's no point introducing partitions yet.

Well doneon taking time to introduce him properly to loading, sounds as though you have done great job so far!

Good luck x
 
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