Loan crisis

Sounds to me like dads in on Daughters plan for you to keep until summer, easiest way to get you on side make you believe you are getting her cheap and they bail out come summer leaving you in the same predicament as you would have been.

Cash now, or take the horse back.
 
Loan Crisis Update.....

Well the horse is going back. Transport and stable all arranged for 2nd January. Shame but the only way forward I think. A friend has given me a failed racehorse aged 5 to try. Very sweet horse that we used to look after before he went into training. Hopefully will work out. THis time all arranged and agreed. Free of Charge Horse if wanted all ownership transfered to my daughter....

I would post a pic but dont know how!

He is bay with tiny white star 16 hands and so far so good quiet with a nice attitude.
 
Sorry it didn't work out with the loan,
But to save your daughters feeling, I think it was for the best.

Good luck with the new horse, I hope she enjoys him just as much.
 
Yes good luck with the new horse. When you say a friend has given you the horse to try, would you be trying it with a view to buying it? Don't let daughter become someone who schools on people's horses for free. Let her work on something of her own.

What made you change your mind re the other one, if you don't mind me asking.
 
Shame about the other horse op, but a decision needed to be made one way or the other - fwiw I think you have made the right one. Wishing your daughter all the best with the new horse, I'm sure they will build a great partnership :)
 
Yes good luck with the new horse. When you say a friend has given you the horse to try, would you be trying it with a view to buying it? Don't let daughter become someone who schools on people's horses for free. Let her work on something of her own.

What made you change your mind re the other one, if you don't mind me asking.

The friend horse has just returned from JonJo O'Neils racing yard has never raced as not quick enough (too laid back I think). The horse was bred by my friend wife who died. He has offered him to me for a nominal £1 (and change of ownership on passport) on the condition that if we ever want rid of him then he goes bcak to my friend as he feels he owes it to his wife to ensure that the last two horses she bred are well looked after. He has no real interest in horses at all other than he pays for everything without any quibble and did want this one to jump race as really well bred. We have helped take care of his two horses on and off for a long time now. So this horse will be totally my daughters..... We will try him first though...took him out tuesday over nearby across country course just showing him the smaller fences. Didn't look at anything really brave and bold. Easy to stop too. Got some flat lessons booked and gonna take him to a small local show jumping comp in the next couple of weeks, just do a clear round course....

With regard to the other horse. The owner put all sorts of comments on facebook, saying she was having the mare back in the summer and that she would be really going well by then. Stuff about the amount of money she would make on her. My daughter saw these comments as did many of my friends. I decided that it was never going to work regardless what was agreed and the fear of her being able to take her anytime would alway be there.
 
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With regard to the other horse. The owner put all sorts of comments on facebook, saying she was having the mare back in the summer and that she would be really going well by then. Stuff about the amount of money she would make on her. My daughter saw these comments as did many of my friends. I decided that it was never going to work regardless what was agreed and the fear of her being able to take her anytime would alway be there.
It's amazing what people will do, they think they are being "entrepreneurial", its not, its taking advantage of someone's good nature, in business term it is fraud!
 
You need to upload them to Photobucket and then use the share links from the pic. there used to be a thread on how to do it.........................
(wanders off to try and locate)
 
I am happy and sad for you. Sad that your daughter will never reap the full rewards of her hard work and she has learned about the bad side of human nature so early on. Really happy she has a blank sheet that she can put all her energies into so and I hope the partnership is a brilliant success, Best of luck for 2014!
 
So pleased you have a final decision and your daughter has a new prospect (which sounds very exciting) I hope she has a lot of fun.

Re pic's, open another tab/window beside this one, make a photobucket account (it's free) then upload the pics from your computer (having uploaded from camera or phone to that first). You'll see a circle type thing in the top right of each pic you've uploaded, click on that and it gives you options, you need LINKS, then you need the IMG one,click and copy that link then paste it into your post on here, do that for all the pics you want to show on here. Remember to hit the return key after posting each link to start a new line otherwise you will make a very wide screen to take them all up (and everyone will be cross that you're making them scroll across to see them all the time, lol!) It sounds complicated but it's easy once you've done it
 
Horrible girl. Sorry you've been messed around, I hope your daughter has gained from the experience of it anyway. At least you wont have to deal with someone so unreliable and untrustworthy anymore. I bet the girl wont make any money from it and will soon regret it.

Good luck with the new horse :)
 
QUICK UPDATE Well the Loan horse is finally going back this week. There has been lots of excuses why she couldn't have her straight away but all arranged now. Such a shame though. The new horse is a absolute marvel 5th week out of race training been to a show jumping event and went brilliantly. Really busy venue over 50 each class. He jumped clear but not very quick doesn't get cantering and jumping together yet lots of flatwork required. He hacked out alone and didn't protest even when hie stable buddies rode past him in opposite direction going home. Who would of thought he would be going so well! Daughter is still gutted over the mare but this TB is definitely softening the blow. The friend owner of TB has signed him over to us for a fee of £1 so make us the legal owners.
 
QUICK UPDATE Well the Loan horse is finally going back this week. There has been lots of excuses why she couldn't have her straight away but all arranged now. Such a shame though. The new horse is a absolute marvel 5th week out of race training been to a show jumping event and went brilliantly. Really busy venue over 50 each class. He jumped clear but not very quick doesn't get cantering and jumping together yet lots of flatwork required. He hacked out alone and didn't protest even when hie stable buddies rode past him in opposite direction going home. Who would of thought he would be going so well! Daughter is still gutted over the mare but this TB is definitely softening the blow. The friend owner of TB has signed him over to us for a fee of £1 so make us the legal owners.

So pleased for you :) and have you charged for full livery on the other one ??
 
QUICK UPDATE Well the Loan horse is finally going back this week. There has been lots of excuses why she couldn't have her straight away but all arranged now. Such a shame though. The new horse is a absolute marvel 5th week out of race training been to a show jumping event and went brilliantly. Really busy venue over 50 each class. He jumped clear but not very quick doesn't get cantering and jumping together yet lots of flatwork required. He hacked out alone and didn't protest even when hie stable buddies rode past him in opposite direction going home. Who would of thought he would be going so well! Daughter is still gutted over the mare but this TB is definitely softening the blow. The friend owner of TB has signed him over to us for a fee of £1 so make us the legal owners.

Congrats on how well your daughter is getting on with her new horse :) and hood for you on standing your ground and sending the mare back, shame for her but it would be a bigger blow to have her dole sneakily from under you.
 
QUICK UPDATE Well the Loan horse is finally going back this week. There has been lots of excuses why she couldn't have her straight away but all arranged now. Such a shame though. The new horse is a absolute marvel 5th week out of race training been to a show jumping event and went brilliantly. Really busy venue over 50 each class. He jumped clear but not very quick doesn't get cantering and jumping together yet lots of flatwork required. He hacked out alone and didn't protest even when hie stable buddies rode past him in opposite direction going home. Who would of thought he would be going so well! Daughter is still gutted over the mare but this TB is definitely softening the blow. The friend owner of TB has signed him over to us for a fee of £1 so make us the legal owners.

so pleased and your TB sounds like a gem
 
So pleased for you :) and have you charged for full livery on the other one ??

No I didn't. Would be pointless really as the kids got no money... My daughter is continuing to ride her till the day she goes. Her choice, she said its not fair on the horse to stop working her. I have explained that when she goes back she will be rugged turned out and rarely ridden but my daughter said that she will be returned in peak condition. However that should be interesting for her owner as this mare is the type that the fitter she is the more the work is important. My daughter had to give her two days off due to christmas and the weather and when she got on her next she tried to buck and spin with her. my daughter sat quietly and pushed her forward through it, but the owner probably would have got off and left it a few weeks before getting back on.
Our new boy had the same two days off and wasnt phased by it at all.
 
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