Loan horse/ Keeper & passport question

No, and if you try, like I did because my vet told me I had to, you should set off all sorts of alarms - I had the passport people and the owner on the phone within 24hrs urgently enquiring what I was up to!

So, the owner remains the owner, and the loaner, or keeper does not have to be on the passport. How embarrassed was I?!
 
ooh that's tricky, because you should have the passport with you, if you travel him.
What she should do, is give you the passport, but alert the passport issuing authority that the pony is on loan, and they should not change the owner's details, and that if an attempt is made to change them, she should be notified.
Or at least, that's clearly what happened with mine
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Surely you could get into trouble for not having a passport?
 
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I have a pony on loan until payed for and the owner refuses to give me the passport.

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If you have now paid for this pony, then the Passport should have been handed over at Point of Sale.
I do so hope you have a Signed Receipt?
If the pony is registered with a Breed Society, then contact them in the first instance.
Otherwise. contact your local Plod as the previous Owners are breaking the law.
 
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Well it states that the passport is not proof of ownership what a farse
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Having a "Passport" in one's possession is NOT Proof of Ownership.
That is, unless the Passport categorically shows the Legal and Up to Date Name and Address of the Owner.
Similar to a Log Book for a Car.
The "Registered Keeper" is not necessarily the "Owner". However, one can drive a car around without a Log Book or Passport but one cannot do so with an Equine.
 
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Hmmm, on Hattie's passport though it has a box for each "Owner's/ Keeper's signature" which is why I asked. I'm her "keeper" so thought that I had to. LOl, glad I never rang up Weatherby's now!!
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You MUST have her Passport in YOUR possession as her KEEPER. (sorry for Shouting).
Otherwise, how are you going to transport her to any parties, etc?
If you get stopped on the road minus her PP, you will get booked.
Get her PP asap from the Loaner.
 
My Dartmoor passports have to go back and have the name of anyone who has the pony on loan to be entered as on loan. I have a new Forest on loan and I am recorded in the passport as keeper.
 
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I have Hattie's passport in my possesion, I just wondered if I had to add my details to it too. It's poohbear59 that doesn't
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Apologies - middle-aged brain! Yes, update with your details and please send a message to poohbear59 as well please.
 
Well then, Mr Woof, how come I was not allowed to update my horse's passport with my details, and was told I was to have it in my possession, but with the owner's details , since she is in fact the owner?
Trying to amend it caused a great deal of trouble, believe me!
 
Going to have to look into this, cos the one I tried to do first, after the vet had said they should be changed, was a farmplan one, which set off all the alarm bells, so I never did try to change the other one, which is, you guessed it, a Wetherby's one!
They're both on permanent loan to a rescue, which then loans them out to me.
Don't ask me why it's done like this, but the upshot is that Farmplan at least, has the horse down as owned by A, on permanent loan to B, and if C (me) tries to alter the passport in anyway, goes off the deep end and rings B, with all guns blazing?!
And B told me my vet was something unprintable and didn't know her thing from her wotsit, which as she is one of the best, was a bit of a cheek I thought!
 
This is the problem with having so many PIO's rather than one large PIO. It is imperative that a LOANER has the Passport in his/her possession. I have never heard of the loaner changing the details in the Passport, but it seems this is down to different PIO's discretion.
 
The thing is, I don't want to change anything, I'm quite happy to have the owner's details on there but I don't want to get into trouble with TS or whoever checks the passports if the Keeper's details are supposed to be added as well as well as the owner's.
It just made me wonder since Hattie's has a box for the Keeper's signature.
 
I have my horse on loan and I have his passport. There is no where in the passport for my details to go in, it just lists his owner. I think it varies with the PIA. When I put my Welsh on loan, I had the option of filling a form in to send to WPCS which stated that he was on loan and who to.
 
I have a horse that I don't own. He is loaned to me by friends in Spain. I arranged for him to be transported to the UK. I applied to the BAPSH for a passport for him. The owner filled in all her details on the form (during a visit to the UK)and I sent a covering letter explaining the circumstances of my possession (as well as asking for everything to be returned to me at my address).

They returned the new passport with the owner's details on it but in the section where the details of any subsequent owners can be listed there is a line referring to me as 'the keeper' of the horse. It doesn't taken up space and there is no address, it just mentions my name.

This struck me as being a very pragmatic way of dealing with things.
 
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