Loan horse returned - shocked

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My horse has been out on loan with a view to buy since last Jan. On Saturday she was returned to me (see previous posts for history).

She was lead out of the lorry by a friend (who I belive teaches the loner girl). My heart sank. She went away as a rather fab looking 6 year old TB, well covered, good muscle tone etc. She was well mannered on the ground and rideable, though a bit of an unpredictable butt head at times.

She has come back looking like a nag from Watton horse fair. Her coat is filthy, her tail dragging on the ground, her mane is about a foot and a half long. She had matts of grease
hair & mud stuck between her legs that two grooms later we cant still get rid of. Every rib is showing despite her winter coat, her hips are prominent, as is her spine and her
rump, neck and shoulders are scrawny.

From what I can work out she has been kept in a stable for the past two or three months amnd has not been ridden much. They havent been turning her out because she churns up the field. But they have still been feeding her leisure mix and mollichop. The dad said the daughter had been doing lonm hacks, but she said she hadnt ridden. Her tack is filthy and the bridle mouldy (more proof she hasnt been ridden). Her turn out rugs are encrusted with shavings and poo, so I would surmise she has been stabled in those. Her vacs have been given late, so if we ever wanted to compete we would have to start again.

I feel so ashamed. With hindsight the signs were there when we visited her in the summer. I just stood there and listened whilst they blathered on that she wouldnt make a show jumper because she didnt seem to remember what she had been taught from one lesson to another. I just wanted to scream out 'hat have you done to my horse you f*****g b******s'. If I had said anything I think I would have broken down, it was all I could do to hold it in until they left.

When thay had gone my partners response was 'bloody hell' He said that the freind had spoken to him when she used our loo and the family were out of the way, she wanted to give us a 'heads up'. Apparently she doesnt know what the hell they have been doing to the horse but it have been bargy and terribly badly behaved - hence her being returned!.

After a groom and check over we turned her out in a big field by herself. She galloped and galloped, bucked and frted and genraly let off steam. Since then she has been very relaxed and has come in to be handleed and done a little in hand and lunge work - no problems. I dont want to let my daughter ride until the saddler has been out, she has lost inches off her shoulders. We were going to try and sell her/rehome her ASAP as I am pregnant and daughter is working, doing A'levels and off to uni next Autumn. As she is at the moment I would be ashamed to even let anyone look at her as a brood mare or companion, so we will just have to find the time to work her, at least to get her back to some semblance of decency.

So advice please - I have never rehabilitated a horse to this extent before

1 - feed - she will be living out in all but the worst weather. I was going to just stick to grass, adlib haylage and a token feed with vit/min supplement (its what she used to be fed). Does anyone think she should have anything else? I was wondering a bout a digestive supplement as she has been under such stress - if yes whaty do you recomend.

2 - work regime, we thought perhaps in hand and a little lunging, trying to get her to stretch down and use her back - any other suggestions, when her tack and back has been checked what sort of ridden regime?

I am just so upset and ashamed of myself for letting things get to this stage
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Well shes back home now, so don't beat youself up......

Turnout, hay etc is all good but I would prob give her something else at the moment if she is so scrawny to try and build her up a bit especially with it being winter - nuts and beet maybe...

When she is ready for ridden work plenty of walking builds up muscle, then slowly intorduce trot and canter...

She will look like a different horse come spring...
 
Firstly, don't be so hard on yourself this is not your fault.

Secondly, at least you have got the horse back and you can start building her up again before finding her a nice new home.

As for feed I'd do exactly as you've sugested. I've heard good things about NAF pink powder as an alround balancer but i'd just see how she goes.

As for exercise, I'd be tempted to leave her a few weeks to gain a bit of condition as the change in regime might be quite tough on her as it is. walks out in hand and a little light lunging would be my next step, followed by hacking and schooling..
 
try and get her used to a routine of feed, stabling, turnout, and eventually work

re the feed, ring up dengie or another feed maker, i found dengie are better... they should give you some advice for that.

let her settle in at home a bit more before exercising. gradually build her fitness and muscles up... lots of walk, maybe a walk out in different places - if it is safe enough.

good luck...

where in norfolk are you??

xx
 
I think your on the right tracks, lots of good hay and grass, no sudden feed changes or big meals though, I'd get a worm count done too just to be on the safe side, along with something to kick off her digestive system to a flying start so she can make the most of the good diet that your putting her on and the hard feed which ever you choose.

I dont know how you mananged not to say anything to them, I like you would be very upset if my horse came back to me in that state, only thing is I'd would not of been able to bite my tongue. They need telling though, so they dont end up taking on someone else horse and doing the same.

Hope you neddy picks up quickly.
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I am so sorry to hear this, just be glad shes at home now with you and will be getting better in no time.

I'd be tempted on the feed side to feed some alfa a oil which is really good for conditon, topline cubes to help her build up her muscles and maybe some unmolassed sugabeet to put on weight. But i think keeping her on grass is a great idea as there is nothing better than this to help with weight. There is a really good vit and min supplement made by naf which gives them an overall boost for their immune system.

I think she will really enjoy living out if she has been stabled for so long. In regards to work just keep it steady like you are planning to, lots of short sessions building up gradually.

I think shes very lucky to have you. Good luck
 
Not really able to give much advice on feeding etc but how awful for you!

At least she's home now and you can start getting her back into good condition.

I would suggest giving her a little more than you previously did to help her bulk up a bit quicker especially coming into the winter - perhaps dengie alpha a mixed with some speedibeet and a supplement.
 
i removed a horse from a loan home this year ... due to neglect. i was devasted, and so angry, i got the rspca involved. if your horse is that bad, consider it.

the best therpy is grass, a good conditoning feed, fed little and often, and adlib hay hayledge. personally if shes that bad i wouldnt even consider exercise until she has some weight on, if you do your just burnign off the calories.
 
Definitely no work, she needs to acclimatise herself and her system before she should be asked to do anything more than recuperate IMO. She doesn't need work until she is at the weight and condition she left you, then her body should be ready enough to cope with slowly introduced work.

Hay, grass, continual movement and possibly something like Baileys Stud Cubes are very good for weight gain, plus they are already formulated so you don't need to add anything else. As she regains condition, you can drop down to a plain pony cube if necessary.
There is nothing better for weight gain than time and spring grass; let it all happen naturally, it will stop problems starting than if you forced the issue.

She's back now, that's the main thing; build on that.
 
Don't beat yourself up about it and learn from your experience so it doesn't happen again. If you ever loan her out again make sure you a) have a properly drawn up loan agreement and b) go visit her on a regular basis if you have any doubts. Pink powder is very good, it is a reasonable price and has helped my boy no end. I would recommend getting her looked at by dentist/chiro before you even attempt any work with her either on the ground or ridden. Good luck I hope you can get back the lovely horse that has been ruined by this sorry affair. There is sadly only one person I would trust to look after my horse and that is myself! x
 
My boy was really thin last year when I got him (to the point of looking like a walking skeleton) and I found that feeding little and often worked well. Giving him too much too soon would just upset his stomach. Worming her is a good idea too.

Also, make sure she is warm enough. She would probably benefit from a rug.

I wouldn't do much exercise either, just let her settle in, de-stress and eat. I think you will see a difference in a short space of time. Use a weigh tape once a week or once a fortnight and you will be able to gauge if you are getting it right.

It never ceases to amaze me how badly some people treat horses. At least you have control of her welfare now. Good luck.
 
Naf pink powder - really is great stuff. its £13.95 for 30 days i think ( i dont work for them or anything lol i just happen to know as got some saturday!)
my mare always looks a bit sour around Jan/feb having been stabled since Nov (mud fever) it really boosts her vit/min and makes her look tip top again.

Working her again, you said shes dropped a lot of muscle etc. when your around her for rug change etc get her to stretch and flex round (carrot stretches etc) just to get her mobile again.

lungeing in a pessoa could be a good way to go.

slowly build up the work, gently hacking if possible, walking up hills then build up to trotting.

Lots of good quality hay.

She will look better in not time - not a great time of year anyway, come spring she will be back on track.
 
Poor thing. Unfortunately I have heard similar stories time and time again. Was there a loan contract in place? Did it describe the condition of the horse. I wouldnt have let them get away without shouting at them. They certainly owe you for restarting vaccinations etc.

Definitely do a worm count and I always do a course of Global Herbs restore at this time of the year to kick start their guts. It also boosts the effects of wormers etc.

With feed, just feed little bits often. There wont be much in the grass at this time of the year so I would feed adlib forage as well. Maybe let her chill out in the field for a couple of weeks and get some weight on before you start working her, and then I would just lunge long and low every other day and hack her out to build up her topline and fitness.
 
Maybe something like Top Spec which contains Yea Sacc but agree with bringing her back slowly
She may not have been wormed either
Would be tempted to use pads under saddle until she recovers shape/muscle
In fact probably wouldnt ride for a while--just put the ground work back in place
Good luck--really sorry the horse has been so badly let down
 
Just a thought - if you have a loan horse try and visit regularly/keep in contact - by email or anything. It is so easy to feel as if you are 'interfering' but honestly, if people are enjoying your horse they are normally really happy to tell you all about it - and if its going wrong you pick up vibes quickly.
 
Thanks every one - We were keeping in touch via e-mail very regularly and it seemed everything was going so well, they said they wanted to buy her and were awaiting an insurance pay out, typing this I cannot I cant believe what an idiot I have been. I visted at 3 and 6 months, however I have been so preoccupied with my pregnancy visting again in the autmn just didnt happen.

I did lots of condition scoring when I did my NVQ at ILPH so tend to be a bit on the mean side when assesing (they drummed into us how bad being overweight is), even if I take into account the fact that I am used to looking at my three natives every day, she is in poor condition, perhaps not bad enough for welfare authority intervention, but not far off!

We use simple systems with the other horses so may try little meals including some alfalfa nuts and unmollassed sugar beet in addition to her ad lib haylage, I just dont want to overload her system too soon. I have already wormed her, I guess as they have lied about everything else they will have lied about worming her. Vet is coming out between xmas and new year so shall get her checked over then, in the meantime I will see what the feed shop have to boost the digestion, will perhaps try the pink powder. The field she is in has plenty of grass ATM as the littlies are on strict diets still.

I had a loan contract in place, and have thought about speaking to a solicitor about it, however I just dont think I could cope with the hassle, I dont think it matters who is right in cases like this, more who has the best solicitor. I am worried however that these people may have done this before. MY OH reminded me that they had a horse on loan with a view to but the summer before ours, they returned him because he allegedly didnt travel.

Will keep you all updated of her progress - if anyone is thinking of loaning out a jumping horse to a teenager in Lincolnshire in the spring for goodness sake pm me their name first in case it is them!
 
Soak any hard feed you give her till its like porridge, it's kinder on her digestive system and she will absorb more nutrients.
 
I had the same experience with my TB mare 2 years ago. Put her on loan and checked every three months - last check was around Aug. When I tried to get in touch to arrange the Nov visit although I left loads of mesages they never got in touch. I went down there unannounced to see what was going on to find her in a muddy field with no rug in November! She had dropped massive amounts of weight from when I last saw her(I've seen better conditioned horses on ILPH literature), had rainscald and mud fever and had no shoes on. I was devastated. Rung up a mate with a horsebox and took her back on the spot. It's amazing that when the box turned up the YO where she was being kept "magically" found the loaness new contact details and got them down to the yard for a screaming match in which they said she didn't need rugs as she wasn't clipped.

Anyway, I had to keep her in because of her skin - her legs were actually bald up to the knee/hock. It took me 4 months to get her back right. Boxed all the time with daily turnout in the menage for 1-2 hours plus about an hour walking in hand/long reining. Penty of rugs to keep her toasty so she wasn't burning calories keeping warm, add lib hay and basically fed loads of alfa and beet. Once her weight was near normal I brought her into gentle work.
 
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