Loaning broodmares

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Just pondering really, does anyone ever take broodmares on a loan basis?
OH's mare damaged her DDFT in the spring, and is hopefully returning to limited work next week subject to a vet visit on Monday. However, if all doesn't go according to plan, and she doesn't stay sound, there is not much hope that she will ever come properly sound and the best chance is a year or two off apparently.
Now, she could just stay with us as she lives out with my other mare who is semi-retired very happily, however I was wondering about loaning her out as a brrodmare.
She is a very well build 16.2hh ISH, by Flagmount King who is a son of King of Diamonds, and she is about as typical a 'Man's Hunter' as you could ever wish to see!
With previous owners she hunted extensively, teamchased, and SJed up to Discovery - would have gone bigger but they decided to breed from her as had too many SJer working at higher levels than that. She is also good on the flat, has taught my husband to ride and yet would go do a decent elemenatary test with an experinenced rider. SO she is a really nice sort.
She lives out, on thin air virtually, and they bred her with a Hanovarian (not sure who but could probably find out). She apparently threw a very nice colt foal but they lost him due to an infection, but she was apparently very good with it all.
So i theory do you think anyone would be interested in taking her on loan as a broodmare or do people just not take them on loan?
She's 13 by the way, had her foal at 10.
 
I do, no decent ridden ones though sadly, just a few I took in the field. This is the only ridden photo I have of her!
I would have liked to breed from her ourselves but I just can't really afford it nor do I have any spare time at the moment!! I wanted to put her to hTobago's boy, as I love arabs and wanted to breed a small sports horse from her, but we just can't afford an extra mouth to feed!!
Not sure how she did the injury, lets just say though we had a temporary farrier as mine was abroad for 3 months and two days after the first time she was asked to work hard ( a XC schooling session) on his shoeing, she trashed the inside of her foot. Was field sound again within 2 shoeings of my farrier returning! Vets said could be something as simple as turning her foot over on a flint in the field though. I asked our vet about the possibility of breeding from her and could it cause problems etc and he said, no, it is literally an injury and wouldn't be any hinderance.
Anyway, photos....me riding her in the field (first time I ever sat on her, felt like riding a mountain compared to my 14.3hh arab!!) so please excuse my hands and me loking down!
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THese are just after she got back from her MRI and she was in a pen....ground is all uneven making her look a bit croup high but she isn't really!
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I had an RID mare on loan and she produced two lovely fillies for us. She was in foal when we took her and then bought the foal from the owner, the second we bred ourselves and the foal became ours without any payment.

Try advertising her on the Irish Draught (GB) newsletter or website.

Do you want to breed from her just because you can't do anything else with her - please consider what you would do with a foal before taking any steps yourself. it is not a cheap option and you may be adding to an already flooded market!
 
Hi irishdraught
That is exactly why I was pondering as to whether a stud would want to use her. If we had decided to breed ourselves the foal would have been for us to keep, but because financially and time-wise at the present time I can't guarantee that we could afford a 5th horse, I wondered if a stud would use her. She would (and did) produce lovely foals for them and if on laon to a specific breeder then presumably they would breed foals that there would be a market for.
As to breeding ourselves, well maybe in the future but would only EVER breed with the full intenton to keep the foal for life. I've got another mare who has had a patchy ridden career but haven't ever considered breeding from her as tbh she isn't as nice a stamp of a horse as millie and has had various health issues that I wouldn't want to risk passing on, plus she isn't registered. I have little time for people who just breed from a mare because it is out of work for the sake of it even if the mare not really that good, so wouldn't want to do that myself! But Mills is the sort of mare we would have considered breeding from in time anyway if it was affordable as she really is a quality mare! (or we think so anyway!)
 
Some of the larger studs loan broodmares as receipients for ET. I believe I am right in saying Tremlows do this. So even if she isn't the most suitable candidate for breeding with herself you may well find a home as a surrogate mare.
 
Hmmm, yes Ben_and_Jerrys I did think about that but I believe they only take them between ages of 6 and 10. I'll check again if it comes to it though.

Ah well, we'll see what happens, fingers crossed she'll end up sound enough to hack out at least which would do for my OH, he's not really that bothered about competing tbh.
 
Yes merlotmonster on here has her mare at Twemlows as a surrogate mare.
She could be carrying Headley Britannia's embryo for all we know- so very exciting!
She says that the mare is really well looked after and she recieves regular updates on how she is doing.
 
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That is exactly why I was pondering as to whether a stud would want to use her. If we had decided to breed ourselves the foal would have been for us to keep, but because financially and time-wise at the present time I can't guarantee that we could afford a 5th horse, I wondered if a stud would use her.

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I havge two RID mares on breeding loan - but the economics are VERY suspect even with RID - I wouldn't take the risk with an ISH although I have accepted a TB mare and a nice MW cob as outright gifts (both unsound through injury.)

The problem, though, with a short term breeding loan is there's an extra 6 months of keep for the mare to be added into the cost equation. When a mare is foaling every year, each foal 'carries' the cost of keeping the mare for 12 months (approx.) - the last 5-6 months of THAT pregnancy and the 6 months of lactation for that foal. A one or two foal loan makes the figures even more dubious, I'm afraid.
 
My mare is currently on loan to Twemlows. Was very impressed when dropped her off and know I can contact them anytime for an update on her . Think your right about age limit though but might be worth contacting them, I know they were looking for larger mares - 16hh plus.
 
Be very careful who has her.... Loaned out a well bred sports horse mare to a recognised stud... sound and unblemished.
They had to have her insured before having her. Got a phone call 4 wks later from a stranger to ask if i owned her. Instead of her being stabled at night and turned out in post and rails as promised. She was turned out on hills in derbyshire and had turned over a stone wall and sliced open her knee the size of a flat hand shape to the bone. the person who had her on loan was on holiday and left a 16 yr old in charge ... who had taken 2 days for her to contact me with no treatment yet.
Dashed up there with horse ambulance and 2 operations to the sum of £2,500 later i have her back and I feel she was lucky to survive. Person who had her on loan did not pay vets bill because i took her away ??
Never Again!!
 
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