long and low, back stretching/strengtening and flexible neck

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Wondered if anyone can offer some suppling and schooling exercises to help my Welsh D x.? She is quite rigid through her neck and is prone to going above the bit when excited or ‘trying it on’ (she is a welshie after all! Lol). Generally she tends to walk out with a ‘pretty’ outline, but is a false picture…she holds her neck quite arched but is not really seeking the contact as she should and if allowed, prefers to run on and lift her head. She does this when turned out too….by preference she has her head and neck up. She is a touch sway backed which of course won’t help things.

I will try and include a conformation pic….
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Her back ground is as follows…. I bred her from my old mare and when she was first backed and worked at 4, her long and low frame was reasonable, although she did still prefer to do her best giraffe impression! But after finding out she had spavins at 5yrs old, I decided to use her as a happy hacker. She went out on loan for a short period last year and since she has been back with me she has been sound and therefore I wanted to try and work her a bit more in the school, aiming at lower level dressage and jumping up to 75cm (ish)! She is now 8yrs old.


In our lessons we are concentrating on her long and low frame, really encouraging her to stretch across her back and track up correctly. If allowed, she tends to bunch up like a ball and ‘run’ rather than trot. I find her rigid through her neck and she does not flex easily to the left and right, preferring to turn her entire body.

If anyone could suggest some good ridden exercises that would be great!
She does not go well in a pessoa, doing her best to bunch up like a ball, rather than going long and low…. I have also been doing carrot stretches with her at least once a day (usually after exercise) - Underneath and between her front legs, on the floor out in front of her and bending around me to reach up to her hip. I also feed her from the floor!
 
for long and low work on the lunge i found 'the kerrilli method' on here that everyone reccomends really really good! its basically a pair of draw reins over the back down between the front legs then clipped onto the bit :)
 
Really? No one has any tips or advice? :(

As a bit more info in case it helps…currently Luna is working 6 days a week. She is hacked for an hour, schooled for around 30 mins or jumped up to around 75cm.

In the school we do pole work, both over poles and around them (set up in a large square so she has to work around the outside and around the inside – saw this exercise in a horse mag!). At all times I am encouraging her to take a long and low contact, to encourage her to stretch her back.

For her neck, I try to flex her to the inside and outside in walk…however, I do struggle here as her feet do tend to follow where her head is pointing and she consequently falls in.

She will leg yield well in walk, and reasonably well in trot, and so maybe some more lateral work would help with her flexibility?

Can anyone further describe the "Kerrilli" method Leanne mentions? (Thanks Leanne!! :) )
 
Hi,

My Mare had a similar problem and had more muscles under her neck that topline. I tend to lunge her with the side reins lower down the roller (not everyone agrees with this but it has worked wonders for darcy), also when trotting, put your stirrups up a few holes, come up off her back and lower your hands (only if it is safe to do so), her back will be free and she will be able to stretch her neck.

Also, I put my mare in her pelham every so often (again, not everyone agrees with this) but it helps her lower her head and soften.

Hope some of this might help.

Jenna
 
I currently ride a few welshie types for owners at the moment. I know you haven't posted about this but personally from what you want to achieve which is the same as my owners goals, I would get her to loose a bit of weight first. I don't know if its just your picture but she looks very well rather than fit. The gelding I ride used to do exactly the same, I spend months and months A) getting him fit in and active in all three paces. I find welsh types are very clever at misleading you to think there working when in fact as you say are just holding there head in place. I would also start doing alot alot of pole work - ideally raised poles to get her back end working. I have a lot of exercise I used in the basic stages of Nemos schooling if you want any just let me PM. P.S she looks lovely :) !! x
 
Thanks for advice! Much appreciated!

Jenna - I will try that with my stirrups...last night I did my canter work in al ight seat and her head position was much better and her canter much rounder. I could actually feel her back lifting up under me which was lovley!

Taimargilbert - Rest assured she has lost weight since this photo was taken! It was taken at start of summer when I began her school work and jumping again. Since then I have had to buy her a new girth as the old one was on top hole and not tight enough :)
No recent conf pics though! Lol Below is prob her most recent pic from about 3 weeks ago....she has her head so high on this incidentally as there is a jump just out of shot, but hopefully she looks a little more toned?!
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Welshies are awful for keeping weight off! As I'm sure you'll know if your involved with riding some! She is on a small paddock which is taped off to make it even smaller!! She gets fed a small scoop of happy hoof chaff just to get her supplements down (she is on a joint supplement and apple cider vinegar)

A lady at yard has those pole pod things which raise trotting poles so I will speak very nicely to her to see if she will loan some! Will PM you for some exercises!
 
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Thanks for advice! Much appreciated!

Jenna - I will try that with my stirrups...last night I did my canter work in al ight seat and her head position was much better and her canter much rounder. I could actually feel her back lifting up under me which was lovley!

Taimargilbert - Rest assured she has lost weight since this photo was taken! It was taken at start of summer when I began her school work and jumping again. Since then I have had to buy her a new girth as the old one was on top hole and not tight enough :)
No recent conf pics though! Lol Below is prob her most recent pic from about 3 weeks ago....she has her head so high on this incidentally as there is a jump just out of shot, but hopefully she looks a little more toned?!
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Welshies are awful for keeping weight off! As I'm sure you'll know if your involved with riding some! She is on a small paddock which is taped off to make it even smaller!! She gets fed a small scoop of happy hoof chaff just to get her supplements down (she is on a joint supplement and apple cider vinegar)

A lady at yard has those pole pod things which raise trotting poles so I will speak very nicely to her to see if she will loan some! Will PM you for some exercises!

Yeah she looks much better there!! I know its so hard isn't it luckily one of the two I ride keeps to the smaller side! (don't know how!) and the one I ride full time is a pain but he's a food monster! lots of hacking out in trot is amazing tho :) he's super fit now - this is after 8 months of work - http://s40.photobucket.com/user/taimargilbert/media/IMG_0798.jpg.html !! Yes pm me and I'll give you all the things I can think of! Stick at it though as it will click in the end just takes time xx
 
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