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What is the biggest payload you can get from a 3.5 lorry? I have seen loads with 1200kg payload but i need about 1400kg. Really cant afford to take a bigger license test. Is it possible to get a 1.4 payload at all??
 
Agree with Peter!

Really all the 3.5t are designed for is bread vans! The payload is not great at all. Sorry to be negative!
 
And don't forget the payload includes the weight of you, any passengers, the tack, water, maybe 100k of fuel if the tank is full... I don't think you can ever get 2 horses in one. Maybe 2 ponies.
 
look in the h&h classified. there are courses that you can do to get a lorry license that are subsidised if you are employed. worth looking into. 3.5k lories only will carry one above 15h and tack water tack and a groom.
 
lisa_lou said:
What is the biggest payload you can get from a 3.5 lorry? I have seen loads with 1200kg payload but i need about 1400kg. Really cant afford to take a bigger license test. Is it possible to get a 1.4 payload at all??
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Question..
Why do you think you need 1400 kg ? Can you break it down into carry weights please?
 
2 x 15.2 lightweight thoroughbreds (around 1100kg bodyweight combined) Everyone says it cant be done but have found as website (as suggested above) that do payloads of 1400kg. Thank you paint me proud!!
 
lisa_lou said:
2 x 15.2 lightweight thoroughbreds (around 1100kg bodyweight combined) Everyone says it cant be done but have found as website (as suggested above) that do payloads of 1400kg. Thank you paint me proud!!
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my pleasure - hope they can sort something out for you :D
 
I had a three counties one and loved it dearly, only sold it as needed more living, still go and give it a stroke if I see it out and about at shows:D
 
If I was involved in an accident with someone in a 7.5t lorry I'd want to know that they were actually capable of driving it given that most of them only do it on 'granny rights' and probably really aren't!
 
bakedbean said:
Thats good.
Because i've always said if i'm in an accident involving a burger van containing horses, then i'd want a full insurance investigation to whether the vehicle was even roadworthy I.E weight etc.
IMO these vehicles are death traps and shouldn't be allowed on the highway
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I don't agree - whether coachbuilt, or not, these vehicles are built to carry 3.5t. It is the converting them that is the issue - I have one and I would not carry two horses in it under any circumstances. I know personally of two people who have had horses injured in 7.5t ones where horses legs have gone through the floor. I have seen some appalling 3.5t ones, but I have one which has been strengthened all round - admitted the payload is reduced as a result of this, but as I am only carrying one, then it isn't an issue.
There are a LOT of 7.5t ones out there which when carrying two horses are even more overweight than a 3.5t one - try e-mailing a few sellers of 7.5t ones and asking what the payload is - most of them can't even tell you. Then ask what the weight of it was when they last had it plated and you'll be surprised that you can barely get one horse in, let alone two!
 
jesstickle said:
If I was involved in an accident with someone in a 7.5t lorry I'd want to know that they were actually capable of driving it given that most of them only do it on 'granny rights' and probably really aren't!
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This is so true. Im a 'granny' (not really :)) who drives a 7.5t and it amazed me that I could just buy one and drive it with no instruction at all. Its wrong really.
I spent hours taking it out on quiet days on industrial estates, quiet roads etc etc getting used to it before I even considered putting a horse in it. I also had someone with me who had driven one before.
 
My instructor told me a client of her had bought a fantastic 7.5t box to transport her two competition horses in but didnt check the unladen weight before hand.
Lo and behold when they got it home and had it on a weigh bridge it would only legally carry one horse! Yet how many people would just buy it and load it up with 2 or 3 horses without checking - dead traps, that should be allowed on the road!

You will probably find most 3.5t box owners are more aware of their carrying limits than larger box owners, and thus more likely to be operating within the law.
 
Paint Me Proud said:
My instructor told me a client of her had bought a fantastic 7.5t box to transport her two competition horses in but didnt check the unladen weight before hand.
Lo and behold when they got it home and had it on a weigh bridge it would only legally carry one horse! Yet how many people would just buy it and load it up with 2 or 3 horses without checking - dead traps, that should be allowed on the road!

You will probably find most 3.5t box owners are more aware of their carrying limits than larger box owners, and thus more likely to be operating within the law.
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That was my point exactly Paint. Just because people see a bigger lorry with 2 or 3 horse stalls, they assume that they are within the law. I think you will find VOSA stop more 7.5t ones than 3.5t ones. Like you say - we know our limits!! And it's my limit now - off to bed before I take my skinny TB out to a show tomorrow in my death trap of transport! I have to say though - a lot of people come up to me at shows now to have a look and say that they didn't realise how good these vans can be - they were also of the same opinion of BB. And I've been offered more than I paid for it too!
 
jesstickle said:
If I was involved in an accident with someone in a 7.5t lorry I'd want to know that they were actually capable of driving it given that most of them only do it on 'granny rights' and probably really aren't!
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Given most people who passed their test after 1997 are far more experienced on the roads, I'm 49 not a granny ( do you have to be to drive a 7.5 ton lorry? )and never had an accident in my life; drive a 7.5ton box which I must say is a darn sight easier to drive than some 4 x 4's.

Plus the fact that most accidents are caused/happen to under 25's?!!
 
AngieandBen said:
Given most people who passed their test after 1997 are far more experienced on the roads, I'm 49 not a granny ( do you have to be to drive a 7.5 ton lorry? )and never had an accident in my life; drive a 7.5ton box which I must say is a darn sight easier to drive than some 4 x 4's.

Plus the fact that most accidents are caused/happen to under 25's?!!
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Don't get offended. I wasn't implying you were incompetent. Just that I find it strange that people are allowed to do it. Clearly the government also found it strange as they don't allow it anymore. I don't think the argument that people have been driving a long time necessarily holds water either I'm afraid. Plenty of people who drive lorries for a long time will have been driving badly for a long time. My mother is a prime example of this, she hates towing (not quite the same but in terms of license entitlements she got it automatically just like she did her lorry rights), is terrible at it and is probably dangerous as she's so hesitant. But she's allowed to do it anyway without anyone checking her ability. I haven't ever seen her drive a 7.5t box but I expect she'd be exactly the same. So yes, I would want to know that the person driving on 'granny rights' was actually competent to do so.

O and the 'granny rights' phrase is really commonly used on here and in RL, I'm surprised you haven't come across it before. In no way is it meant to imply you have to be a granny.
 
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