Lost shoe ripped hoof to bits!

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Hi all,
Just wondering what to expect my farrier should be doing in the case of my horse. He is only shod in front. Last week I missed a show because he had pulled a shoe and I didn't fancy jumping on hard ground without it. Farrier came out and put new shoe in. My horse within 48 hours has ripped it off along with all the hoof wall around the areas in which the nails would go. His hoof looks a mess but he isn't lame, only his usual footiness he gets when he loses a shoe.
Farrier came today while I wasn't there and said he can't put a shoe on. He said he will ring me tomorrow to tell me what we need to do next....

Any experiences of this and what is the usual remedy, and what should I be expecting farrier to do? I am thinking about getting a spare hoof boot as it's not uncommon for my horse to lose shoes! Hence why he isn't shod on back feet!

Thanks in advance!
 
Could you take the other front off as well? It doesn't sound like you've got enough hoof left to put the shoe back on, he might benefit from time without shoes to grow a strong new wall if you decide to put the shoes back on.
 
I'd be looking at a new farrier....or at least, thinking carefully about current one!

Previous farrier earnt a nice few £ of shoes getting pulled off days after being shod. We were shocked if a shoe managed to stay on for more than a week ;) Changed farrier as heard a few people were having similar problems...not had the same since.
 
My farrier uses a resin stuff to stick to the hoof and then nails into that, doesn't sound like your farrier is on the ball if he hasn't offered this.
 
My horse did the same thing on the weekend. She isn't lame but her foot looks rather stubby due to most of the hoof wall missing on both sides!!!!! It's her rubbish hoof anyways but my farrier removed all her shoes (no charge), trimmed that foot as best he could and the others and said that he would come back in 3 weeks to see. I'm going to order some boots tomorrow for her to prevent chipping while she's barefoot.
 
We had this about 3 months ago, took all shoes off and used hoof boots, added biotin to feed and painted keratex on, they look great now.
 
That happened to mine, farrier managed to put it back on. Only gone 5 weeks and it's come off again, farrier is due out on Thurday but I'm not sure he will have anything to nail it too. I do mostly road work so I hope he can do him :(
 
The Easyboot Trails which Im currently using on my (always barefoot) strike me as being pretty suitable for this scenario (ie not medical need for a boot but for comfort while hoof grows), because they are about the easiest to take on and off (its all velcro).

I use mine for riding too, and they are OK on all terrain apart from deep mud, although I havent found them good at staying on with the pads in them that you can get, only if I leave the pads out, but you wouldnt need them as thats more for sore soles.

The advantage of the velcro is that the boot doesnt rely quite as much on a very very tight fit, so as the hoof changes a bit between trims its not a disaster.

Just a thought, the Saddlery shop do hoof boot rental and can advise on what would be best boot wise.
 
Hi thanks for your replies!
I have to either ride in field or road work - no nice soft arena to ride in I'm afraid. Looks like hoofboots would be a good idea then! Will wait to see what farrier says tomorrow.

My horse has never pulled his foot to bits before, could it be an effect of the unusual weather we've been having? ie lots of wet then suddenly warm and dry?

Ho hum... stubble fields are beckoning!!!!! :(
 
I read pretty much every hoof related thread on this forum.

There has been about a thousand threads about horses losing shoes in the last three months :D

The high sugar grass with imbalanced mineral profile means they are laying down less robust tissue. The wet ground soaks into the holes in the wall caused by the nails - it weakens the them and thus makes it easier for the shoe to come off and rip wall off with it.

The bad new is that it's unlikely to get much better any time soon :o

The good news is that I've never seen a shod hoof that wasn't a touch too long - so they rarely rip off anything they needed ;).
 
This has happened to my horse too!! I was going to go barefoot anyway due to her being out of work but wasn't planning on doing it quite like that lol.

She is only shod in front too and it's only her front feet that are suffering, her back feet are really good so hoping her fronts will eventually go the same way.

It's def the weather though, there are bout 3 horses on the yard this has happened to in the last week.

My friend has been barefoot for quite a while and swears by horse boots when riding on hard ground. She even does endurance with them
 
When the bare hinds are better than the shod fronts.....but the fronts and hinds wallow in the same weather......it must be the shoes causing the problem :D :p
 
My tb mare has awful feet and often pulls shoes off. My farrier reccommended pro feet and keratex. Its slowly beginning to work. In fact she lost a shoe last night, which has been on 4 weeks. Thats excellent for her lol.
She acts like you've cut her leg off when shes lost a shoe.
 
Can the hoof boots be left on 24/7? I was thinking about getting the rubber ones with the wire cabling at the front and I thought the Trail version could only be worn for about 1-2 hours when being ridden. My horse is going to be left out in the field for 3 weeks as there is too much gone on her off-side fore to be ridden and there is rocky bits near the water troughs that i don't want chipping off what hoof she has left.
 
No, hoof boots are, as you say, designed for riding, not turnout. They would probably rub, and also the horse would very soon get "trainer foot" in the damp warm environment in the boot. Thrush would probably be the first consequence.
 
Black_Horse_White said:
That happened to mine, farrier managed to put it back on. Only gone 5 weeks and it's come off again, farrier is due out on Thurday but I'm not sure he will have anything to nail it too. I do mostly road work so I hope he can do him :(
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I don't understand why you don't try barefoot, avoid these problems and have a more healthy horse as well.
Metal shoes are the biggest con since the South Sea bubble burst.
 
I do totally agree with miss L toe, iv got 6 horses and only 1 left shod now. :) I'm getting their shoes off slowly and much healthier horses apart from one who has issues with his pedal bones which started me off on my barefoot trip and it's gone from there. As somebody said on here one day which stuck with me " any horse can go barefoot, it's the owners that can't" and it's so true. Iv learnt so so much since the beginning off the 1st set came off and it makes you think a lot about what u put into your horse along with other things. I'm loving it
 
My mare tore her heart bar off on her left foot + most of her foot 3 weeks ago !

I had a complete paddy and asked the farrier to come and take the other one off to as I hate them and never really wanted them in the first place ( She had no shoes for years I put shoes on a year ago as I was doing more hacking and she was feeling all the stones- she then went dog lame in November 6 months of work diagnosed with navicular and heart bars fitted plus a danilon a day when stabled at night)

Her feet were always strong until I put the shoes back on and now they have crumbeled I really believe it has something to do with the shoes restricting circulation, I'm worried as now her crumbly feet look really low at the heel from where her hoof wall has fallen away and she is very sore on stoney gound:-( poor baby boo I've gone back to a danilon a day to ease things as the grow out

I have just been using hoof boots to and from the stable while leaving her hoof to wear naturally in the field.

Sorry no advice really ... perhaps I should have started my own thread to air my woes rather than hijack yours
 
sidesaddlegirl said:
Can the hoof boots be left on 24/7? I was thinking about getting the rubber ones with the wire cabling at the front and I thought the Trail version could only be worn for about 1-2 hours when being ridden. My horse is going to be left out in the field for 3 weeks as there is too much gone on her off-side fore to be ridden and there is rocky bits near the water troughs that i don't want chipping off what hoof she has left.
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They can be left on for turnout if necessary.

I would recommend it for a horse with dangerously thin soles who has little padding under the coffin bone.

It would be part of a rehab programme and for a few weeks only.

The horse would need bringing in to be checked for rubs, prophylactic thrush treatment given and the hooves given chance to dry.
The boots need washing and dusting with athletes foot powder.

The risk of rubs is high - but you have to weigh that against the risk of bruising the the sole and/or sub-solar abscessing.

It's not an easier option :D But for some horses it is necessary.

If your horse is chipping wall away - it's wall she doesn't need anyway and she's seizing this oppertunity to get rid of it ;)
 
Snowdrop said:
I've not heard that before but it is so true. Took my horses shoes off at the beginning of this year and he has never been better, tbh.
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Problem with sayings like that is they alienate owners.

It's hard enough getting people to engage about their horse's hooves.
Making them feel judged and uncomfortable just sets us all back :(
 
Thanks guys!

With regard barefoot conversation, interesting that my lad's unshod back feet are in perfect nick.. apart from that I am not happy with the angle his heels are at - they are well turned under, debating shoeing them :(

Really it's prob a good idea for me to invest in a 'spare' hoof boot to have in the tackroom in case of these emergencies. There are a whole load of stubble fields beckoning and no means of riding in them!!!

hmmm stil havent heard from the farrier either :( bad show I think
 
Oberon said:
When the bare hinds are better than the shod fronts.....but the fronts and hinds wallow in the same weather......it must be the shoes causing the problem :D :p
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But don't you get it?! they've got their own seperate microclimates... much nicer weather at the back than the front ;P

But seriously...very good point well made...
 
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