Lovely horse for sale

[Birker2020]

Horse for Sale | Talented young horse (whickr.com)

Anyone after a nice moving horse? He seems very nice and looks sound albeit a bit overbent.
What a nice horse. Am I missing something I wonder?

 

[cauda equina]

Nike Volo is a 6 year old gelding sired by Entertainer. He is a late developer and been produced slowly. Standing at 17hh with 2 incredible paces. Jumped a few shows up to 1m and cross country training. He was purchased by us as a yearling from Bolesworth Auction. He needs a rider that has time to develop him slowly. His movements are good enough for pure dressage. Extremely beautiful and elegant horse.

That?

 

[SilverLinings]

I am probably being over suspicious, but I would be a bit wary of the fact that he is 6 and being described as a dressage prospect, but doesn't appear to have done much, and they labour the point that he has been a slow developer and will need bringing on slowly by the buyer. I would question whether things have to be taken slowly in order to keep him sound, or because he mentally struggles with work. They could just be nice sellers who don't want to rush though.

 

[SilverLinings]

Also, which two paces are incredible? If one of them is gallop it won't be much help in dressage And are the other paces 'average' or rubbish?

 

[JBM]

His nose nearly touches his chest.
Don’t like that

 

[dorsetladette]

The advert is written very differently to the other adverts he has on there. I wonder if he is one they bought to produce for themselves and he sadly hasn't made the horse the wanted.

 

[misst]

I didn't understand the 2 paces thing either. Just a typo? He's horribly overhead is that because he's very strong?

 

[ycbm]

What a nice horse. Am I missing something I wonder?

This?

 

[scats]

I don’t like the hind limb confo.

 

[Wizpop]

Looks a lovely horse……but riding so deep….gut feeling is something not right….

 

[MagicMelon]

He's still IMO not cheap at £10k. Sounds to me as though hes had some possible behaviour issues hence stressing he needs brought on slowly. He hasnt done much which is in line with this too...

 

[Ceifer]

Bargepole comes to mind.

 

[nutjob]

I don't see a video and only see one picture. A horse of this size and quality which didn't have anything wrong is cheap at £10k, it's the sort of thing I have been unsuccessfully looking for, for the last 6 months. I have a much bigger budget for something which moves and passes a vet. I wouldn't however travel to see one which at age 6 still looks so weak on the hindquarters and top line.

 

[ihatework]

He’s big, weak, poor hind leg and I hate the way he balances himself down. He’s one of those the decent pros won’t want and they are hoping to sell to a naive amateur.

 

[Abacus]

I'd bet quite a lot that he has been schooled up until these videos in draw reins, you can almost see their action even when not wearing them. I like his attitude to the fences though.

 

[ester]

This?


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Yes wonder what they look like on a hard surface

 

[Birker2020]

His nose nearly touches his chest.
Don’t like that

I agree with that. And also that he is very under priced which is why I'm asking if I'm missing something, that type are normally £14-£15K! I know his hind limb conformation isn't brilliant but neither are most horses that are this type and that only comes with proper work. He doesn't look strong at all and I wouldn't say he was particuarly being sympathetically ridden either. I just really like him.

I'm having a break from horse hunting with all the things going on at the moment so not asking for myself but I like to keep an eye on the market and was curious at why the H&H collective thought.

Thanks

 

[ihatework]

I agree with that. And also that he is very under priced which is why I'm asking if I'm missing something. I know his hind limb conformation isn't brilliant but neither are most horses that are this type and that only comes with proper work.

I'm having a break from horse hunting with all the things going on at the moment so not asking for myself but I like to keep an eye on the market and was a bit curious.

Why on earth do you think he is underpriced?????? This bemuses me.
He is a whopping great gamble.
If anything he is over priced.

 

[ester]

That’s worse than ‘not brilliant’….

 

[splashgirl45]

I would like to see walk trot and canter if I was looking for a dressage horse not one that is only cantering and popping jumps , he looks very weak for a 6 year old as well

 

[ramsaybailey]

Not a fan looks like he'd be difficult to keep sound and his head carriage in particular makes him look like he wouldn't be enjoyable to ride to a fence

 

[Birker2020]

Why on earth do you think he is underpriced?????? This bemuses me.
He is a whopping great gamble.
If anything he is over priced.

For the 16.2hh - 17hh market - 6 - 12 years, WB or ISH type he is under priced at 10K. I've been studying horses on the market for about the last three years now, have studied literally hundreds and have looked at the prices.

I can promise you that anything under the search categories above that is £10k or under £10k has either medical history of some sort, has vices, or is lame upon receipt of a video.

 

[ramsaybailey]

Yes but I think the videos and description (needing to be bought on slowly) shows why he's 10k

 

[ihatework]

For the 16.2hh - 17hh market - 6 - 12 years, WB or ISH type he is under priced at 10K. I've been studying horses on the market for about the last three years now, have studied literally hundreds and have looked at the prices.

I can promise you that anything under the search categories above that is £10k or under £10k has either medical history of some sort, has vices, or is lame upon receipt of a video.

Duh .. he's underpriced if he is without medical or training issues.
And it's pretty flipping obvious there is at least one if not both of the above.
Therefore he is not underpriced. He is priced to sell for someone either too inexperienced to see it or as a gamble for someone aware what they might be taking on.

 

[Orangina]

This?


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I am trying to educate myself more on conformation so would really appreciate a run down of everything you see here that doesn't look good.
I'm really quite bad even when looking at diagrams that have comparisons on them!

Editing to add, I have spotted what I think might be issues but not sure if I'm way off the mark at all

 

[Goldenstar]

This?


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Quite ,honestly I would not even have watched the video after seeing that photo .

 

[Birker2020]

That’s worse than ‘not brilliant’….

If we are talking about core and muscle then surely horses change shape with appropriate work, diet, etc. Day 1, Day 41, 9.5 months later

 

[LadyGascoyne]

I think he’s a fairly priced for the horse he is - and still not that sellable unless the buyer had that money to burn.

He’s a very large, young horse of competition type, with all the fragilities of modern sports horse breeding. But he doesn’t have the potential to balance the risk with being a serious competition prospect.

His market will be for riders who want a big flashy moving warmblood but are riding at a lower level. They would then have to be competent enough to handle bringing on an inexperienced large, sporty horse, and all the complexity that goes with that. So the level of competence required to bring it on, doesn’t really match with the kind of rider who will be happy doing flat work and popping lower fences.

With these sports horse types where the conformation is iffy, it’s usually a case of it is likely to break but it is also likely to fly. In this case, it is likely to break but it definitely won’t fly. A hard sell, I’m afraid.

 

[TheHairyOne]

All i could see were the horrifically upright pasterns on the hinds in that pic. Id not touch it with those and I bought a youngster who is a bit straight through the hock so can accept 'not perfect'.

 

[Ellibelli]

Aside from the poor hind leg conformation and the apparent draw rein usage I always rejected any horse ridden in a bib martingale when I was looking for a horse. I appreciate they have a safety purpose, but they make opening hands to keep them straight to a fence difficult and the only horses I know that are ridden in them are habitual rearers and associated leg wavers - hence the bib martingale to prevent them being caught up in it. It's interesting that the video seems to show an ordinary martingale apparently being used at home and a bib martingale - along with being ridden ridiculously deep - at a competition type venue