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I wondered why Froggy kept opening his mouth . Lucinda explained that the FEI have banned the bit he used to be ridden in so Kitty has been searching for a replacement for a view. Very interesting but does anyone know which one it was and why it is no longer allowed. Lucinda said it had been fine for many years and then the rules changed.
 
myheartinahoofbeat said:
I wondered why Froggy kept opening his mouth . Lucinda explained that the FEI have banned the bit he used to be ridden in so Kitty has been searching for a replacement for a view. Very interesting but does anyone know which one it was and why it is no longer allowed. Lucinda said it had been fine for many years and then the rules changed.
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I just asked Google AI, and apparently he wore a "Myler combination bit".
 
Northern Hare said:
Gosh I hope Jalapeno (Gemma Stevens) it's ok, they were having such a great round. 🤞🤞🤞

(She pulled up very quickly after the last water, and Jalapeno was lame. Gemma leapt off, and the vets were with her very quickly. The course is now on hold. )
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For those without access to the Livestream coverage, the H&C commentator has just given an update on Jalapeno. He said that she was under veterinary care, that she had ruptured a tendon and had been put in a cast. Fingers firmly crossed for her recovery. 🤞
 
ihatework said:
What I’m understanding from watching and interpretation of the various commentators/interviews is that it looks to be built to ride on a one straight line with the fences at an acute angle. But that line rides long and you therefore need the pace to get it.

And that it fine if you have a bold straight horse that reads the question

But what is transpiring is less horses are reading it than expected. You have the placing of the crowd and the blue trays taking their eye away, and when that happens the bold one stride isn’t happening.

So there seems to be an alternative 2 stride slightly turning line, that is ridden with less pace, that some have made look good. But others less so.
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Ref the angled brushes in the main arena. They were jumping so much better towards the end of the class - word would have got back on how to jump the combination, and it really showed imo.

Just my thoughts, but I always think that the riders with two horses are at a distinct advantage in situations like this, as they can put their best horse to run second, so they're guaranteed that they'll be running at the end of the class. I'm not sure what the solution is to make it fairer for all the competitors, tbh I don't think there is one. But it's not simply a drawn order for XC.
 
Northern Hare said:
Ref the angled brushes in the main arena. They were jumping so much better towards the end of the class - word would have got back on how to jump the combination, and it really showed imo.

Just my thoughts, but I always think that the riders with two horses are at a distinct advantage in situations like this, as they can put their best horse to run second, so they're guaranteed that they'll be running at the end of the class. I'm not sure what the solution is to make it fairer for all the competitors, tbh I don't think there is one. But it's not simply a drawn order for XC.
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I agree in these sorts of situations it does pay to go towards the end.

There are other situations (deteriorating ground for instance) when it may pay to go early.
 
Northern Hare said:
Ref the angled brushes in the main arena. They were jumping so much better towards the end of the class - word would have got back on how to jump the combination, and it really showed imo.

Just my thoughts, but I always think that the riders with two horses are at a distinct advantage in situations like this, as they can put their best horse to run second, so they're guaranteed that they'll be running at the end of the class. I'm not sure what the solution is to make it fairer for all the competitors, tbh I don't think there is one. But it's not simply a drawn order for XC.
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Short of locking riders in an isolated room until they leave the start box, I don't think there is. It is part of the challenge and tactics. Do you take note of what others have done, or ride the horse you have underneath you at that moment ( which can change around the course) and the course you walked? Hopefully you walk all possibillities for every jump. Obviously having good spotters and feedback does help, but it still comes down to what you decide in the moment.
 
Northern Hare said:
Ref the angled brushes in the main arena. They were jumping so much better towards the end of the class - word would have got back on how to jump the combination, and it really showed imo.

Just my thoughts, but I always think that the riders with two horses are at a distinct advantage in situations like this, as they can put their best horse to run second, so they're guaranteed that they'll be running at the end of the class. I'm not sure what the solution is to make it fairer for all the competitors, tbh I don't think there is one. But it's not simply a drawn order for XC.
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I don't think they can choose their better horse to go second. The draw decides which of their horses is in the first/last slot.
 
ihatework said:
I agree in these sorts of situations it does pay to go towards the end.

There are other situations (deteriorating ground for instance) when it may pay to go early.
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Yes I agree, it can work against competitors if ground and weather conditions deteriorate during the Class - or if course if the rider gets injured on their first horse, then all bets are off.
 
Cragrat said:
Short of locking riders in an isolated room until they leave the start box, I don't think there is. It is part of the challenge and tactics. Do you take note of what others have done, or ride the horse you have underneath you at that moment ( which can change around the course) and the course you walked? Hopefully you walk all possibillities for every jump. Obviously having good spotters and feedback does help, but it still comes down to what you decide in the moment.
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I agree with you, and there were a few competitors who went clear through the combination early on and made it look easy, but there were quite a few who had copy cat glance off's, perhaps they didn't have a Plan B/C/D in place to allow then to change their riding plan based on the spotter info coming back, even early in the class?

It reminds me of years and years ago, at the Barcelona Olympics, I was lucky enough to be part of the HTSG "spotter brigade" and I was assigned with a friend to the main water jump which turned out to be really influential. Of course back then there wasn't the comms in place there is now, but the spotters were organised with the usual Team GB military precision. It was a fantastic and memorable day, but incredibly tiring as we had to keep running backwards and forwards to "Command" with all the details of how the competitors were jumping the combination. 😊
 
teapot said:
Gemma's posted to say Jalapeno is comfortable in her stable and they're heading home tomorow
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Gosh that's a long journey (approx 475 miles from Lumuhlen to Calais) for her to take so soon after her injury, but I'm sure it's with the vet's approval. I hope she recovers quickly - hopefully the fact that they're allowing her to travel so soon means that the injury isn't too serious. 🤞
 
Northern Hare said:
Gosh that's a long journey (approx 475 miles from Lumuhlen to Calais) for her to take so soon after her injury, but I'm sure it's with the vet's approval. I hope she recovers quickly - hopefully the fact that they're allowing her to travel so soon means that the injury isn't too serious. 🤞
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She has ruptured a tendon and is in a cast. I imagine the decision is just to dose her up, get her home and start her lengthy recovery process in a place she knows and is happy
 
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