Lush cosmetics saying horse owners cruel - also in hunting

i never liked lush anyway the smell of the shops is enough to make you sick lol body shop is much better lol

Do not agree with them claiming hunting is cruel to horses and hounds, i don't hunt myself but wouldn't mind someone taking my horse etc i have no views on it either way but i am sure lush could get in a lot of trouble stating something like that
 
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Funny you should say that - always wondered if they should be rebranded 'Thrush'

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Some people are clearly missing the point the OP was trying to make-fine if you want be an anti, but supporting hunt sabs? Its such a bizarre choice when there are far more deserving charities. The sweeping statements Lush are making about people who take their horses hunting is pure boll*cks. Surely no-one on here agrees with that.

Clearly someone high up at Lush is a major anti, or associated with the sabs in some way, thats the only logical reson behind it. I hope they are reading this and re-considering their decision, I wonder if they're on twitter? Might be worth someone posting messages on their account about this.
 
Oh it's a cosmetics company, of course we would all die if we didn't have perfume and bubble bath, who the fek cares, just dont buy the crap, they have probably been squirting their garbage into fluffy bunnies eyes to test it all, people in glass houses...........
I bet the board all drive BMWs, remember them, stole a bridleway off us all in Oxford to extend the factory to churn out more phallic shaped cars for those that feel the need to
thrust their car into every available braking space at 90mph on a busy motorway.............
 
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....Wealthy, land-owning families

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This is the first time I have seen an anti hunting campaigner actually admit the real reason they object to hunting.

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I am saddened to read this, I love lush cosmetics, and have always been happy to part with my money to them.

However now, I am not, as an illedged ' wealthy landowner' clearly they do not like me so do not want my money.

Not al people who own land are wealthy, we own our farm,but I am by no means wealthy, just look at my 'M; reg 106 to see that
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Any last bit of money goes on my very nice old boy, who was given to me, as a 13yr old, who noone could do anything with.

Lush, get your facst straight, and stop the prejudice, and I might come back.

I may even send this to the email address supplied, grrrrr
 
Wow, I am so surprised they've decided to support such an extreme association. I've got a degree in marketing and now work in marketing and the company I work for don't really like to communicate any opinions on anything. Why on earth would you want to alienate ANY potential customers? Also, anything we're involved in we have to go over and over to make sure we know what we're talking about to the best of our ability. To say that hunters are cruel to horses, that doesn't seem like they know what they're talking about at all. Maybe they don't know what hunting is and just like the idea of supporting people that don't like foxes being killed??

I agree with a few of the other posts, just the smell of the Lush shops make me wretch!

This is not really to do with the OP, but I'm also surprised to see anti-hunting people on this forum. But I haven't been a memeber for very long; I haven't read the hunting forum yet, I'll go there next. I'm by no means saying they shouldn't be on here, I'm not saying that at all. Just the name of the publication: Horse and Hound, makes me surprised to see people against hunting (with horses and hounds!?) I know the magazine isn't just about hunting. Ok, I'm mumbling now, but I know what I mean! I hope this doesn't cause offence to anyone.
 
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At the end of the day, hunting with hounds is illegal, and people are still out there killing foxes. It must stop. The majority of people want it to stop, which is why it was banned in the first place. I respect Lush for having the guts to do this and I am not alone in that.

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Welcome but you are wrong, hunting foxes is not illegal, it was not the majority of people that wanted it banned either.

It is the amount of hound/dogs that take the animal down, that the law dictates.

Could go on about the rights and wrongs of this law, but acutally, as a fox lover, as many pople who indeed hunt are, will stop here.
 
I am anti hunting, but oddly I seem to sympathise with a lot of the values and arguments that pro-hunters put forward. I am open minded and open to change so there's no real better place for me to be than somewhere where I can exchange views with people from the hunting community. Thats the way I look at it
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That said I don't support any kind of extremist action, not pro or anti.
 
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Wow, I am so surprised they've decided to support such an extreme association. I've got a degree in marketing and now work in marketing and the company I work for don't really like to communicate any opinions on anything. Why on earth would you want to alienate ANY potential customers? Also, anything we're involved in we have to go over and over to make sure we know what we're talking about to the best of our ability. To say that hunters are cruel to horses, that doesn't seem like they know what they're talking about at all. Maybe they don't know what hunting is and just like the idea of supporting people that don't like foxes being killed??

I agree with a few of the other posts, just the smell of the Lush shops make me wretch!

This is not really to do with the OP, but I'm also surprised to see anti-hunting people on this forum. But I haven't been a memeber for very long; I haven't read the hunting forum yet, I'll go there next. I'm by no means saying they shouldn't be on here, I'm not saying that at all. Just the name of the publication: Horse and Hound, makes me surprised to see people against hunting (with horses and hounds!?) I know the magazine isn't just about hunting. Ok, I'm mumbling now, but I know what I mean! I hope this doesn't cause offence to anyone.

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You will find every so often 'trolls' come on here to think they are causing debate, but do it in such a way that they just make themsleves look stupid, not that I am saying anyone here has, but it does happen.

I am in support of anyone that does not like to hunt, but not of anyone that causes that danger to children, horses or hounds, in there bid to not hurt foxes, in the name of being animal lovers.

For the record I believe all life is precious, and do support hunting and shooting as long as it is done quickly and cleanly, and to add, mostly the foxes I have seen killed on hunts are the sick and lame that would have died a slow and painful death, I digress but wanted to just add my pov
 
That's fair enough, just some people have made quite strong anti comments and I was just surprised! I'm about to go into the hunting section to see if there are any anti arguement in there, for curiosity as to what they are!
 
Wow... This always attracts such alot of attention. What I do find funny though, is half the time I am told that no one catches a fox on a hunt, then the other half the time I am told why hunting is just so important to catch these rotten vermin!

Anyway, in reply to my comment, yes I do agree that it is a bit of a sweeping statement. i.e it is cruel to the hounds and horses... But it's a tricky one, becuase for someone who is anti - I obvioulsy hear to all the bad things too.. Such as how hounds get lost or killed when their short time is up and how they horses are not fit but get pulled out for hunting for someone who travels down for the 'weekend' and thus are ruined. I know for a everystory there is about how hunt sabs act horridly to the hunt, there is a hunting person doing the exact same thing back! So, for all the stories there are just as many on the other bench, and this is what either side stand for. So of course 'lush' are going to state that side on their comments. It is cruel for some horses and it it is cruel for some hounds and thus this is why the are against it.
 
Am emailing them as was a customer, but now will not cross their threshold.While everyone is entitled to their opinions on hunting, for them to support sabs is totally mad. They could make thier point by clever marketing, without supporting aload of idiots who have little regard for peoples' or horses' safety.
WALK WITH YOUR FEET FOLKS and take your money elsewhere!
 
I drag hunt and I will continue to drag hunt, but to be honest I can see their point. Hunts near me are openly hunting fox, breaking the law. The drag hound that we had caught on the wire last week would agree that it hurts like hell until someone cuts you free. The one that got hit by a car running after the scent last year wasn't so lucky. And my own horse took himself and me down in wire on his first outing and is lucky to be alive, never mind unhurt. We take these risks with the hounds and the horses and I couldn't really argue with anyone who defined those risks as "cruel".
 
QR - Have sent them an email making my views clear, and telling them that I shall be taking my business elsewhere!
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Lush is proud to be associated with the Hunt Saboteurs Association who show the tenacity and bravery to uphold a law that our own police force and government seem reluctant to enforce, despite strong and continued support for the ban from the British public.

We welcome and value feedback from all our customers, so thank you for getting in touch with us. I will be sure to pass your comments on to our Campaigns team for future consideration. Please be aware that this is a statement from Lush and we are unable to enter into further correspondence regarding individual experiences or news items.

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WOW BLIMEY To support Sabs whoa, not good, and for a company to advertise that, not gracing their doors again ever!
To uphold a law...what by breaking other laws!!!
As a child my pony and I had acid thrown at us as we went over a covered ditch by our loving sabs (i was only 8) so I have my own reasons.
I am against animal testing on products in the beauty industry and there are a few groups out there that do alot of good and do bring issues to the table......Do Lush realise that they are supporting a group that condones violence......they proberly do!!!!
On an odd note my husband used to be a sab many years ago, he came out as he disagreed with their practices...He now supports me fully in hunting and even disagrees with the ban!!! Ironic eh lol!!!!!

Sorry to get back to the OP

LUSH YOU SUCK!!!!!
 
Re this link http://lushcharitypot.co.uk/ourprojects/hunt-sabateurs-association/ it's nice to see them admitting that it's ALL forms of hunting they object to- far too many people have belived it's just nasty evil fox hunting
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You also helped launch a new anti shooting campaign with the printing of 10,000 leaflets to educate the public on the horrors of shooting and intensive rearing.

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While hoping they NEVER shout and tantrum enough to get shooting banned,I do wonder how long the group will last once it starts on fishing
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Hunting/shooting are minority sports,fishing is something many people enjoy,both as part of rural life and an escape from the city.

As for lush,there are other places to get bath bombs from,so they wont be getting any of my cash this year or again.
 
Seems to me that any company that is making so much money (particularly in a recesson) that it can be "giving money" away", is OBVIOUSLY ripping customers off with the price of the goods in question, so anybody that buys merchandise from them knowing they are chucking money around is a twat, I dont mind paying a fair price for stuff, but being ripped off is different.
 
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Oh it's a cosmetics company, of course we would all die if we didn't have perfume and bubble bath, who the fek cares, just dont buy the crap, they have probably been squirting their garbage into fluffy bunnies eyes to test it all, people in glass houses...........
I bet the board all drive BMWs, remember them, stole a bridleway off us all in Oxford to extend the factory to churn out more phallic shaped cars for those that feel the need to
thrust their car into every available braking space at 90mph on a busy motorway.............

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I am not supporting the campaign AT ALL but I have to add to this post. Lush are VERY anti animal testing and operate a strict policy on making sure that they never test on animals
Also a reply to a previous post - the shops smell like that because of the essential oils. The products are all hand made in a factory in Poole. I love the products but hate this campaign
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Re this link http://lushcharitypot.co.uk/ourprojects/hunt-sabateurs-association/ it's nice to see them admitting that it's ALL forms of hunting they object to- far too many people have belived it's just nasty evil fox hunting
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You also helped launch a new anti shooting campaign with the printing of 10,000 leaflets to educate the public on the horrors of shooting and intensive rearing.

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While hoping they NEVER shout and tantrum enough to get shooting banned,I do wonder how long the group will last once it starts on fishing
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Hunting/shooting are minority sports,fishing is something many people enjoy,both as part of rural life and an escape from the city.

As for lush,there are other places to get bath bombs from,so they wont be getting any of my cash this year or again.

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I have to say that I am anti hunting myself, but I do wish to have our English heritage perserved.
What worries me is that Lush are trying to help an association that doesnt understand what would actually happen if all these methods of pest control were banned!
I dont agree with what Lush are doing and feel it is suicide of their marketing department!
 
Interesting to see they are also using it to campaign against shooting.

What exactly does LUSH do for the environment except make millions of pounds from people's concerns. If people didn't buy all that bollox but just used a bar of soap and shampoo then the environment would be better off not worse.

By contrast due to shooting generates 2.7 million work days on conservation per year; the equivalent of 12,000 full time jobs.

LUSH are drippy hippies nothing more nothing less
 
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Re this link http://lushcharitypot.co.uk/ourprojects/hunt-sabateurs-association/ it's nice to see them admitting that it's ALL forms of hunting they object to- far too many people have belived it's just nasty evil fox hunting
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You also helped launch a new anti shooting campaign with the printing of 10,000 leaflets to educate the public on the horrors of shooting and intensive rearing.

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While hoping they NEVER shout and tantrum enough to get shooting banned,I do wonder how long the group will last once it starts on fishing
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Hunting/shooting are minority sports,fishing is something many people enjoy,both as part of rural life and an escape from the city.

As for lush,there are other places to get bath bombs from,so they wont be getting any of my cash this year or again.

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They already have illegally sabotaged fishing
 
worth writing to the guardian too letters@guardian.co.uk

I tried one, who knows?

"The decision of LUSH Cosmetics to support the Hunt Saboteurs Association is reprehensible. LUSH make a great play on their environmental credentials however how do they square this with the fact that the HSA has confirmed it is using LUSH funding to attack shooting.

A recent report approved by David Milliband then Defra Minister showed that shooting contributes 2.7 million hours of conservation work a year. This would equate to 120,000 full time jobs with a value of many many millions.

This contribution dwarfs any that LUSH will ever make."
 
Sat here musing (I should be working)......
I wonder if Lush had decided to donate to The countryside alliance rather than the HSA if they would be getting the same slating?
Does anyone find it ironic that HSA could aslo stand for Hunt Supporters Association.

Right, going to ground now.
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Hate lush... allergic! lol
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Funny you should say that - always wondered if they should be rebranded 'Thrush'

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The reason some people have allergic reactions from their stuff is because they use a lot of essential oils which can do that. They dont test their stuff on animals either which was why I used to buy from them.
 
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They dont test their stuff on animals either which was why I used to buy from them.

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But I'll bet you a pound to a penny the ingrediants will have been somewhere along the line, just not by or for lush.
I worked for a cosmetics company some years ago and played a significant role in getting them out of animal testing so have researched this grey area very intensively.
 
I mostly just lurk on this forum, very rarely posting, but this thread has actually moved me to reply!

I am saddened that I will now no longer buy Lush products some of which I did very much enjoy.

Perhaps surprisingly I don't and won't hunt myself, but I respect the right of anyone to hunt within the law and massively value the work that both the hunts and shoots do to maintain and protect our countryside. I was against the hunting ban as having seen ill and injured foxes quite often locally I would far prefer them to be quickly dispatched by a hound than suffer over days and weeks.

Most importantly however, and the reason why I will be boycotting Lush going forwards, is that I hold the HSA in the utmost contempt and cannot believe that a commercial business will support an organisation which exists to promote hatred for a certain sector of society. Lets face it, it's not about the foxes for most of these people.

This is just one example of trouble I have had for owning a horse and living on the edge of Beaufort country (the terrain does not lend itself to hunting just here):

Several years ago I was quietly hacking my pony (I am a small adult not a child) through our village - not a fox in sight - and was viciously verbally attacked and physically threatened by anti-hunt people who had been wound up by the HSA - why was I their chosen victim? Well, my crime was to be wearing a red jacket - a musto waterproof as it happened, but the ignorant townies refused to believe that it wasn't hunting pink and that my £450 pony was not a top class hunter owned by a Toff.

Good bye Lush - it was nice while it lasted. If you want my cash back, spend your profits on some better researched causes.
 
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