Macho man/rig question

[Tickytarvy]

Tapping into the wealth of knowledge on this forum again!

I’m after some advice or just general thoughts please. I’ll try to keep it fairly brief

My home bred 7yr old is becoming increasingly macho in his behaviour. He wasn’t gelded until almost 18 months as we had to wait for potato number two to drop. When the vet came to castrate, he did have trouble getting number two but assured me that everything had gone to plan.
Horse remained colty in his attitude but was manageable and I put it down to him being young and full of himself and that it was probably his character.
Fast forward and over the last couple of years, he has become more unpredictable with all the typical traits of an entire.
I’ve had bloods taken today as I’m seriously thinking that some functioning tissue may have been left behind.

First question, if the blood test is negative, has anyone found any good supplements that support a gelding with these tendencies?
Second question, if the test is positive and I need to have him operated on, do I have any right to ask the vet to reduce the cost as he wasn’t successfully gelded first time around. I don’t wish to complain to my vet if I don’t have grounds to do so.

Any replies gratefully received

 

[Orangehorse]

Don't know about the first, but I would say yes to the second. You asked him to do a professional job, and paid him for that, and if it hasn't been successful then I think they have to put it right.

 

[Equi]

Gelding is pretty clear at the time, you get two solid balls or you don't. Were you there for the gelding?

 

[Tickytarvy]

Gelding is pretty clear at the time, you get two solid balls or you don't. Were you there for the gelding?

Thanks for replying
Yes I was and have to say that I didn’t think what was taken out looked the same as ones we’ve had done before. One looked more mangled if that makes sense but not having witnessed that many, I didn’t question it.

 

[Orangehorse]

Thanks for replying
Yes I was and have to say that I didn’t think what was taken out looked the same as ones we’ve had done before. One looked more mangled if that makes sense but not having witnessed that many, I didn’t question it.

When I had one done years ago the vet said it was important to make sure that everything was removed, it was too easy to leave a bit of tissue behind.

 

[Tickytarvy]

When I had one done years ago the vet said it was important to make sure that everything was removed, it was too easy to leave a bit of tissue behind.

This is what I’m thinking, horse may be more man than I thought! I will have to wait for the blood results, it would certainly explain a lot.

 

[Apizz2019]

Had a similar situation many years ago.

Bloods were okay no retained tissue etc.

Tried every supplement known to man and they didn't work.

I just had to manage his behaviour, it was a nightmare to be honest.

In hindsight, it would have been better if he had retained tissue as at least there would have been reason behind it and possibly something medicinal to try.

I'm sure nowadays there are more supplemements and of course a lot more knowledge and expertise on how to manage/overcome riggy behaviour.

 

[Tickytarvy]

Had a similar situation many years ago.

Bloods were okay no retained tissue etc.

Tried every supplement known to man and they didn't work.

I just had to manage his behaviour, it was a nightmare to be honest.

In hindsight, it would have been better if he had retained tissue as at least there would have been reason behind it and possibly something medicinal to try.

I'm sure nowadays there are more supplemements and of course a lot more knowledge and expertise on how to manage/overcome riggy behaviour.

I know what you’re saying, if bloods are positive then the behaviour is accounted for. Not so simple is it’s negative.

 

[Apizz2019]

I know what you’re saying, if bloods are positive then the behaviour is accounted for. Not so simple is it’s negative.

It was awful - he was my heart horse and such an amazing boy but he was so complicated and there were more lows than highs.

Though the highs were amazing highs.

But the lows were incredibly low.