Maggots in frog!

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Farrier found some maggots in my girls frog no doubt feasting on her thrush I constantly battle with.

So whats the best course of action............Hydrogen Peroxide??? to fizz them out, or is there something better? Her stable is kept spotless and I already regular scrub her feet with salt water and paint frogs a couple of times a week with iodine to keep on top of the thrush - She is a cob with deep clefts and as shod her frogs don't hit the floor, so thrush is always a battle (did try unshod, but her field is very wet Autumn and Spring, and her feet went very soft and started to break up). Have managed to have her unshod over winter, when it has been cold, so the ground was dry/frozen, but come sping and the raing her feet, just fell to pieces.
 
Sorry, I can't advise you but reading your post has just put me right of my ice cream....gross, just gross.

Hope you get it sorted though! :)
 
If it's that bad, i would CleanTrax them. Order from Equine Podiatry Supplies website. I've battled with severe thrush (in the horse, not me!!) for the past year. CleanTrax is the best thing. And White Lightning (same website).
I wonder if the maggots were actually doing u a favour though & helping rid of the thrush??
 
Well, at least the maggots will clean out all the grotty tissue. Copper Sulphate is very good for thrush, get a garden spray, put a teaspoon of CS in, top up with water, spray at least once daily, shake every time you use it.
 
I have some tea-tree, lavender and aloe vera spray, which is really made for dogs skin. It is very good stuff for just about everything skin related and will certainly kill maggots - it's like pouring salt onto slugs!
 
Dab said:
currently i'm trying out his product http://www.ntdry.co.uk/ for some deep seated thrush, and so far it really does seem to be doing the trick, after trying various other methods.
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This stuff has worked well for me :) It is reasonable to think that constantly using harsh antiseptics like iodine, hibiscrub etc. will have the same negative effect on frogs as they do on human skin, so actually regular use might well make the thrush worse. Feet, like our skin, are actually supposed to have bacteria on them, stripping everything off destroys the protective layer from the frogs. Stuff like tea tree oil (diluted a bit, I use a cider vinegar spray with a few drops of tea tree oil) works to keep thrush at bay. No harm using a one off nuke everything treatment like Cleantrax (can you use that with shoes?) or WhiteLightning, but then back off and use something that allows the skin to recover ;)
 
Looks interesting Dabs - Thanks

Oh good point Cuffey, have some Stockholm spray as was using that in the Autumn , will give that another go too.
 
Many years ago maggots were actually packed into an infected hoof and bandaged in there to clear out all the filthy tissue. I have often heard the old boys talking about this method, can't remember details like how long etc but mentioned it to my vet once and he says the old vets used to recommend it in days gone by.
Thank god anti biotics eh.
 
Blue spray for sheep foot rot! Animedazon is one brand. Think its a POM but does the job. My mare is similar and this is all that worked. She's now barefoot since moved to sand.
 
Blue spray is good for the thrush and infection issue but won't necessarily kill the maggots. There is no replacement for manual removal. Having destroyed a cow last summer after maggots caused hoof capsule to collapse and had eaten through half of both pedal bones I'd be being very careful. Nothing licences to get rid of them in horses so I use surgical spirit/ hydrogen peroxide depending on where they are, ivermectin to treat the burrowing ones and frontline to prevent change in larval stages. Have used similar concoctions on many species from geese to alpacas to horses rabbits and guinea pigs.
 
Just a warning that in big numbers they can be fatal so steroids to dampen the immune response to the toxins released by the buggers dying ( much like massive worm
Infestations) may be necessary.
 
Cuffey said:
Stockholm Tar Spray but need to clean and allow feet to dry first
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This after blasting with a hose on full. Yuk.

Doesn't matter how clean you keep her stable, you need to look at your field management. Used to share a cob with this issue and the owner finally worked out it was because the field wasn't poopicked often so she'd get rid of the maggots only for them to reappear all the time because they were in the poo in the field. Euw.

I saw the bandaging maggots not a wound in a hospital to eat away the necrotic tissue, but this needs supervision and very careful monitoring!
 
Hydrogen peroxide syringe it in. Its a shame that canesten doesnt come in a paint form for animals as i am currently hibiscrubing my dogs paws and then puting canesten cream in! The vet told me to do this...trouble is the tiny tube of cream is tiny! I have done this for horse before...peroxide and then tube of canesten. I would kill maggots first and then canesten. Good luck.
 
glenruby said:
ivermectin to treat the burrowing ones and frontline to prevent change in larval stages.
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:eek: Have frontline, so will spray in the morning, have called friend with goats, so have the blue spray, guess I better grab a wormer incase there were more deeper in (counted/removed 2).
 
They probably weren't there before, they hatch so fast!

When my bunny had fly strike I dunked her straight in salty water then sprayed her with Iodine. One of those two things killed the maggots!
 
Brightbay said:
This stuff has worked well for me :) It is reasonable to think that constantly using harsh antiseptics like iodine, hibiscrub etc. will have the same negative effect on frogs as they do on human skin, so actually regular use might well make the thrush worse. Feet, like our skin, are actually supposed to have bacteria on them, stripping everything off destroys the protective layer from the frogs. Stuff like tea tree oil (diluted a bit, I use a cider vinegar spray with a few drops of tea tree oil) works to keep thrush at bay. No harm using a one off nuke everything treatment like Cleantrax (can you use that with shoes?) or WhiteLightning, but then back off and use something that allows the skin to recover ;)
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I agree that you can over clean. My pony has had awful thrush this "spring" Vet gave me iodine which worked, but then it came back worse than ever. I was constantly scrubbing with iodine. Then I ran out of iodine and after a few days the thrush had gone! Leaving it alone helped the thrush, but no idea on the maggots :eek:
 
being a sheep farmer as well as horse owner, sheep suffer with flystrike and we use Crovect as a prevention and treatment. The drug in Crovect is the same as in Deosect fly spray for horses (the one that you buy in a tin similar to Jeyes Fluid and dilute)so this would work but you need to read the instructions as it's an organosphosphate, Deosect is licensed for horses whereas Crovect isn't. It's quite expensive but you could use Deosan for the rest of the fly season as a fly spray. You can also buy a yellow summer fly cream from the vet/online/farm shop this is cheaper but wear gloves when you put it on or you will have attractive yellow hands for a few days! Maggots do leave a clean wound but they cause a lot of stress to the animal as they itch as they move around
 
For the deep seated thrush Id be using Red Horse Field Paste

http://www.redhorseproducts.com/Hoof_Care/Field_Paste

Dont use stockholm tar/kevin bacon et al, they contain abrasive products which damage the healthy tissue trying to grow back.

If the maggots have caused wounds Id spray with silvetrasol first as it kills 99.9% of bacteria in about 20 seconds

http://www.appliedequinepodiatry.org/perfecthoofwear/Silvetrasol.html

I would also be looking at the diet and shoeing/trimming to see why the hoof is so compromised.
 
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