Tinypony
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There are a lot more sensitive horses that find it hard to cope in a bit of rain or weather these days than there were when I was a kid.
Majot RANT coming on!
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Eira
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I can understand putting a lightweight rug on overnight or if its raining, but then take the bloody thing off when its a lovely sunny day like today. I've seen countless horses rugged up in the day and just because their owners don't want them to get dirty.
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LOL ! My horse is in for that reason (well not really but she's in when its warm and sunny)
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I can understand putting a lightweight rug on overnight or if its raining, but then take the bloody thing off when its a lovely sunny day like today. I've seen countless horses rugged up in the day and just because their owners don't want them to get dirty.
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LOL ! My horse is in for that reason (well not really but she's in when its warm and sunny)
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Eira
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Bravo Ishy, whats the point in bandying on about how unnatural it is to rug them when we're hoolying around on their cowing backs!!!
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And anyway .. what would I spend my money on if I didn't rug her ?
Oh I know .... numnahs
Bravo Ishy, whats the point in bandying on about how unnatural it is to rug them when we're hoolying around on their cowing backs!!!
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And anyway .. what would I spend my money on if I didn't rug her ?
Oh I know .... numnahs
MontyandZoom
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Monty has a rug on when it is VERY warm and wet since he gets rainscald. However, I used to obsessively rug when it rained as he would moan (scream and run up and down the fence and throw himself around).
I am probably horrid and cruel but now I don't go running out with a rug when it forecasts rain. He was stabled before at night and was nervous wreck and completely sensitive. He now lives out 24/7 with 20 other horses and his attitude to rain has completely changed. He couldn't care less! He just wants to mooch about with Zoomy and munch. He drops weight at the drop of a hat being a 28yo tb but when there is lots of yummy grass in the summer, it isn't a problem.
Maybe some horses have forgotten how to be horses?
I am probably horrid and cruel but now I don't go running out with a rug when it forecasts rain. He was stabled before at night and was nervous wreck and completely sensitive. He now lives out 24/7 with 20 other horses and his attitude to rain has completely changed. He couldn't care less! He just wants to mooch about with Zoomy and munch. He drops weight at the drop of a hat being a 28yo tb but when there is lots of yummy grass in the summer, it isn't a problem.
Maybe some horses have forgotten how to be horses?
cronkmooar
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From experience stick with the Amigo!
Annagain
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Mine is half hippo so I do admit to putting a rug on him to keep him clean if I have to go somewhere in the following few days and rain is forcast. We're not talking a bit of mud here but a grey plastered head to toe in one inch thick mud - he digs a mud wallow first! If there's nothing coming up though though he can get as muddy as he likes, I don't care if we're just hacking or in the school. It's purely for my convenience and sanity though, my old black section D was never rugged in summer and was 18 before he would keep one on in winter!
Ranyhyn
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- for example the Bucas sunshower - whats the harm?
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why would you do this to me...I can't afford another rug and I have been managing with just my cheap Amigo rainsheet but now I really NEED to buy a Bucas Sunshower because you told me it existed!
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I am sorry. But it is a very clever rug!!
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- for example the Bucas sunshower - whats the harm?
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I'm telling my bank manager on you
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I am sorry. But it is a very clever rug!!
Elle1085
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nature also provides shelter! which my field doesnt - so that is why i put a rain sheet on my horse when heavy rain is forcast! even in June!!!!!!!!!!!
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FFS, they get wet, they dry out! Whst do you think the horses born and bred on the Mongolian steppes do/did. There aint no trees there, nor on the Shetland Isles! Im sorry. I am becoming increasingly disgusted by the 'modern' treatment of the horse. The horse is not a bloody greenhouse plant,. The horse is 500 Ks of blood and muscle who has had the ability to survive and evolve over hundreds of thousands of years. WE DID NOT INVENT THE HORSE. So lets stop destroying what nature has created (as much as is possible). Mairi.
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I think most people's horses were not bred in mongolia so they probably don't have quite the same coats. Plus horses are living longer and longer and leading healthy, happy working lives so i don't think the modern treatment of horses is a bad thing at all. Some horse just do not like rain and cold so would you rather see horses shivvering and miserable than happy dry horses with rugs on?
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nature also provides shelter! which my field doesnt - so that is why i put a rain sheet on my horse when heavy rain is forcast! even in June!!!!!!!!!!!
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FFS, they get wet, they dry out! Whst do you think the horses born and bred on the Mongolian steppes do/did. There aint no trees there, nor on the Shetland Isles! Im sorry. I am becoming increasingly disgusted by the 'modern' treatment of the horse. The horse is not a bloody greenhouse plant,. The horse is 500 Ks of blood and muscle who has had the ability to survive and evolve over hundreds of thousands of years. WE DID NOT INVENT THE HORSE. So lets stop destroying what nature has created (as much as is possible). Mairi.
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I think most people's horses were not bred in mongolia so they probably don't have quite the same coats. Plus horses are living longer and longer and leading healthy, happy working lives so i don't think the modern treatment of horses is a bad thing at all. Some horse just do not like rain and cold so would you rather see horses shivvering and miserable than happy dry horses with rugs on?
Seahorse
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What about hot horses dripping in sweat standing in the blazing hot sunshine getting overheated with their rugs on?
At least if a horse is cold it can run around to warm up.
At least if a horse is cold it can run around to warm up.
Kenzo
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I'm sure many horses that are rugged even in the lightest of rugs are done so with good reason, the great British weather is playing all sorts of tricks on us at the moment, where some TB's would not batter an eye lid, after all horses do have water proof skins, but some would just stand in a corner shivering away....like people we all feel different in the same temperatures.
However I will join you in rattling your chains on one thing that boils my blood, people that can't be bothered to take the rugs off and leave them out in teh blistering head with rugs with a full neck on and the horse is sweating bucket loads all day, I know you can't rushing down to yards every too minutes but if there is a slight chance that it will come a bit warm and sticky then there better off being naked and getting a little wet than wet though and dehydrated due to over heating.
However I will join you in rattling your chains on one thing that boils my blood, people that can't be bothered to take the rugs off and leave them out in teh blistering head with rugs with a full neck on and the horse is sweating bucket loads all day, I know you can't rushing down to yards every too minutes but if there is a slight chance that it will come a bit warm and sticky then there better off being naked and getting a little wet than wet though and dehydrated due to over heating.
Cyberchick
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If you are that concerned about it and want the horse to be kept as nature intended many many years ago then take the saddle off your horses back and go and shove it back on a mountain somewhere and get a different hobby where you wont get so worked up over other peoples issues.
My horse did not come from Mongolia nor the shetland isles. He is not bred and has never been kept in the cold and wet and if I did you will find a straggly hat rack on your hands with the major hump. On a day like today he will be naked or a fly rug but he will still have a summer sheet in the stable at night and if it rained then he will have a light weight turnout on. I do not ride a wet horse not do I appreciate the 3" of mud I have to scrape off but at the end of the day it is my decision and until you pay his bills dont go around telling me what I should and shouldnt be doing.
I think you will find you wont find many tbs on the side of a freezing cold mountain when its lashing down
My horse did not come from Mongolia nor the shetland isles. He is not bred and has never been kept in the cold and wet and if I did you will find a straggly hat rack on your hands with the major hump. On a day like today he will be naked or a fly rug but he will still have a summer sheet in the stable at night and if it rained then he will have a light weight turnout on. I do not ride a wet horse not do I appreciate the 3" of mud I have to scrape off but at the end of the day it is my decision and until you pay his bills dont go around telling me what I should and shouldnt be doing.
I think you will find you wont find many tbs on the side of a freezing cold mountain when its lashing down
yethersgill
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Have got my dales mare out in a fly rug
we do endurance and she is fully clipped out and she loves mud! The rest of the herd are naked and will stay that way
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nature also provides shelter! which my field doesnt - so that is why i put a rain sheet on my horse when heavy rain is forcast! even in June!!!!!!!!!!!
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FFS, they get wet, they dry out! Whst do you think the horses born and bred on the Mongolian steppes do/did. There aint no trees there, nor on the Shetland Isles! Im sorry. I am becoming increasingly disgusted by the 'modern' treatment of the horse. The horse is not a bloody greenhouse plant,. The horse is 500 Ks of blood and muscle who has had the ability to survive and evolve over hundreds of thousands of years. WE DID NOT INVENT THE HORSE. So lets stop destroying what nature has created (as much as is possible). Mairi.
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'modern' horses are groomed daily, stripping them of natural oils protecting them from the harsh weather!!! Im sure hairy shetlands can cope perfectly fine on the shetland Isles but a elderly thoroughbred like mine wouldnt - so there is times when rugs are needed.
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nature also provides shelter! which my field doesnt - so that is why i put a rain sheet on my horse when heavy rain is forcast! even in June!!!!!!!!!!!
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FFS, they get wet, they dry out! Whst do you think the horses born and bred on the Mongolian steppes do/did. There aint no trees there, nor on the Shetland Isles! Im sorry. I am becoming increasingly disgusted by the 'modern' treatment of the horse. The horse is not a bloody greenhouse plant,. The horse is 500 Ks of blood and muscle who has had the ability to survive and evolve over hundreds of thousands of years. WE DID NOT INVENT THE HORSE. So lets stop destroying what nature has created (as much as is possible). Mairi.
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'modern' horses are groomed daily, stripping them of natural oils protecting them from the harsh weather!!! Im sure hairy shetlands can cope perfectly fine on the shetland Isles but a elderly thoroughbred like mine wouldnt - so there is times when rugs are needed.
and dont FFS me!!!!!!!!
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nature also provides shelter! which my field doesnt - so that is why i put a rain sheet on my horse when heavy rain is forcast! even in June!!!!!!!!!!!
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FFS, they get wet, they dry out! Whst do you think the horses born and bred on the Mongolian steppes do/did. There aint no trees there, nor on the Shetland Isles! Im sorry. I am becoming increasingly disgusted by the 'modern' treatment of the horse. The horse is not a bloody greenhouse plant,. The horse is 500 Ks of blood and muscle who has had the ability to survive and evolve over hundreds of thousands of years. WE DID NOT INVENT THE HORSE. So lets stop destroying what nature has created (as much as is possible). Mairi.
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Stop Mincing your words Mairi and say what you really mean
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nature also provides shelter! which my field doesnt - so that is why i put a rain sheet on my horse when heavy rain is forcast! even in June!!!!!!!!!!!
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FFS, they get wet, they dry out! Whst do you think the horses born and bred on the Mongolian steppes do/did. There aint no trees there, nor on the Shetland Isles! Im sorry. I am becoming increasingly disgusted by the 'modern' treatment of the horse. The horse is not a bloody greenhouse plant,. The horse is 500 Ks of blood and muscle who has had the ability to survive and evolve over hundreds of thousands of years. WE DID NOT INVENT THE HORSE. So lets stop destroying what nature has created (as much as is possible). Mairi.
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Stop Mincing your words Mairi and say what you really mean
MontyandZoom
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It definately pisses me off more to see hairy cobs sweating in the heat when people can't be arsed to take the rugs off. One guy in my field comes down every 6 months to rug in H/Ws and then takes them off 6 months later (if i haven't taken them off first........got quite alot of flack for that on this forum).
Everyone has an opinion.......how many posts are there about nosey horsey types thinking they know best! It goes with territory.
Everyone has an opinion.......how many posts are there about nosey horsey types thinking they know best! It goes with territory.
Hippona
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WE DID NOT INVENT THE HORSE. So lets stop destroying what nature has created (as much as is possible). Mairi.
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Quite .
But seeing as I ride it (in modern tack) , stable it at night , clip it . shoe it , and rug it in the winter .. I see no difference in just rugging it in the summer too
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Indeed. Also......to point out that Mother Nature also created rain scald which is one accessory I would rather do without thanks very much.
If you choose not to rug your horses that is entierly up to you, but other people may have perfectly valid reasons for doing so. And as you neither know the OP or their horse, or every horse thats out wearing a rug then you cannot possibly be justified in ranting about about it.
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WE DID NOT INVENT THE HORSE. So lets stop destroying what nature has created (as much as is possible). Mairi.
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Quite .
But seeing as I ride it (in modern tack) , stable it at night , clip it . shoe it , and rug it in the winter .. I see no difference in just rugging it in the summer too
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Indeed. Also......to point out that Mother Nature also created rain scald which is one accessory I would rather do without thanks very much.
If you choose not to rug your horses that is entierly up to you, but other people may have perfectly valid reasons for doing so. And as you neither know the OP or their horse, or every horse thats out wearing a rug then you cannot possibly be justified in ranting about about it.
Smurphy
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If you are that concerned about it and want the horse to be kept as nature intended many many years ago then take the saddle off your horses back and go and shove it back on a mountain somewhere and get a different hobby where you wont get so worked up over other peoples issues.
My horse did not come from Mongolia nor the shetland isles. He is not bred and has never been kept in the cold and wet and if I did you will find a straggly hat rack on your hands with the major hump. On a day like today he will be naked or a fly rug but he will still have a summer sheet in the stable at night and if it rained then he will have a light weight turnout on. I do not ride a wet horse not do I appreciate the 3" of mud I have to scrape off but at the end of the day it is my decision and until you pay his bills dont go around telling me what I should and shouldnt be doing.
I think you will find you wont find many tbs on the side of a freezing cold mountain when its lashing down
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well said!!
If you are that concerned about it and want the horse to be kept as nature intended many many years ago then take the saddle off your horses back and go and shove it back on a mountain somewhere and get a different hobby where you wont get so worked up over other peoples issues.
My horse did not come from Mongolia nor the shetland isles. He is not bred and has never been kept in the cold and wet and if I did you will find a straggly hat rack on your hands with the major hump. On a day like today he will be naked or a fly rug but he will still have a summer sheet in the stable at night and if it rained then he will have a light weight turnout on. I do not ride a wet horse not do I appreciate the 3" of mud I have to scrape off but at the end of the day it is my decision and until you pay his bills dont go around telling me what I should and shouldnt be doing.
I think you will find you wont find many tbs on the side of a freezing cold mountain when its lashing down
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well said!!
Fairynuff
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If you are that concerned about it and want the horse to be kept as nature intended many many years ago then take the saddle off your horses back and go and shove it back on a mountain somewhere and get a different hobby where you wont get so worked up over other peoples issue
My horse did not come from Mongolia nor the shetland isles. He is not bred and has never been kept in the cold and wet and if I did you will find a straggly hat rack on your hands with the major hump. On a day like today he will be naked or a fly rug but he will still have a summer sheet in the stable at night and if it rained then he will have a light weight turnout on. I do not ride a wet horse not do I appreciate the 3" of mud I have to scrape off but at the end of the day it is my decision and until you pay his bills dont go around telling me what I should and shouldnt be doing.
I think you will find you wont find many tbs on the side of a freezing cold mountain when its lashing down
[/ QUOTE ]. Okay, you have made your point but please tell me, who rattled your cage? I made no personal comment regarding your choice of animal husbandry, so please, dry up and blow away. M.
If you are that concerned about it and want the horse to be kept as nature intended many many years ago then take the saddle off your horses back and go and shove it back on a mountain somewhere and get a different hobby where you wont get so worked up over other peoples issue
My horse did not come from Mongolia nor the shetland isles. He is not bred and has never been kept in the cold and wet and if I did you will find a straggly hat rack on your hands with the major hump. On a day like today he will be naked or a fly rug but he will still have a summer sheet in the stable at night and if it rained then he will have a light weight turnout on. I do not ride a wet horse not do I appreciate the 3" of mud I have to scrape off but at the end of the day it is my decision and until you pay his bills dont go around telling me what I should and shouldnt be doing.
I think you will find you wont find many tbs on the side of a freezing cold mountain when its lashing down
[/ QUOTE ]. Okay, you have made your point but please tell me, who rattled your cage? I made no personal comment regarding your choice of animal husbandry, so please, dry up and blow away. M.
Hippona
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If you are that concerned about it and want the horse to be kept as nature intended many many years ago then take the saddle off your horses back and go and shove it back on a mountain somewhere and get a different hobby where you wont get so worked up over other peoples issue
My horse did not come from Mongolia nor the shetland isles. He is not bred and has never been kept in the cold and wet and if I did you will find a straggly hat rack on your hands with the major hump. On a day like today he will be naked or a fly rug but he will still have a summer sheet in the stable at night and if it rained then he will have a light weight turnout on. I do not ride a wet horse not do I appreciate the 3" of mud I have to scrape off but at the end of the day it is my decision and until you pay his bills dont go around telling me what I should and shouldnt be doing.
I think you will find you wont find many tbs on the side of a freezing cold mountain when its lashing down
[/ QUOTE ]. Okay, you have made your point but please tell me, who rattled your cage? I made no personal comment regarding your choice of animal husbandry, so please, dry up and blow away. M.
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No offence mairi...but who rattled yours? You started the rant, people are just giving their views back.
Or is that not allowed if you don't have 'forum clout'?
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If you are that concerned about it and want the horse to be kept as nature intended many many years ago then take the saddle off your horses back and go and shove it back on a mountain somewhere and get a different hobby where you wont get so worked up over other peoples issue
My horse did not come from Mongolia nor the shetland isles. He is not bred and has never been kept in the cold and wet and if I did you will find a straggly hat rack on your hands with the major hump. On a day like today he will be naked or a fly rug but he will still have a summer sheet in the stable at night and if it rained then he will have a light weight turnout on. I do not ride a wet horse not do I appreciate the 3" of mud I have to scrape off but at the end of the day it is my decision and until you pay his bills dont go around telling me what I should and shouldnt be doing.
I think you will find you wont find many tbs on the side of a freezing cold mountain when its lashing down
[/ QUOTE ]. Okay, you have made your point but please tell me, who rattled your cage? I made no personal comment regarding your choice of animal husbandry, so please, dry up and blow away. M.
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No offence mairi...but who rattled yours? You started the rant, people are just giving their views back.
Or is that not allowed if you don't have 'forum clout'?
Vicki_Krystal
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Just because it is June doesn't automatically mean you CAN'T rug up! Things don't change overnight just cos we say the month has changed! Like, May 31st - rug, June 1st - oops it's June, put the rugs away!
If it's going to rain I put a pac a mac on mine. if it's really hot I put on a white fly rug cos she's dark and gets very hot and bothered by the flies. If it's chilly I put a summer sheet on overnight!
There are no hard and fast rules you know!!
If it's going to rain I put a pac a mac on mine. if it's really hot I put on a white fly rug cos she's dark and gets very hot and bothered by the flies. If it's chilly I put a summer sheet on overnight!
There are no hard and fast rules you know!!
cronkmooar
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To be honest the cage rattling appears to being done by yourself
Hippona
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Eira
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Oh no - dont start with the forum clout thing again!
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Just what I was thinking ...
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Just what I was thinking ...
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Ranyhyn
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Mairi I don't think you can tease a dog and then be suprised when its bites, so to speak.
sidesaddlegirl
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I put a waterproof rug on my 35 year old pony last night as it looked like it was going to rain. Although she keeps a thick coat year round, she drops weight easily because of her age and I don't want her catching a chill at night when it's wet, thereby loosing valuable fat for the winter!
fornema
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MIne get rugs on at night no fill so all they have is there own heat to keep them warm. Mairi you would defo not like the polo yards round here polo ponies most not fully clipped all have M/W stabled and turnned out during the day and god knows what at night
Fairynuff
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nature also provides shelter! which my field doesnt - so that is why i put a rain sheet on my horse when heavy rain is forcast! even in June!!!!!!!!!!!
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FFS, they get wet, they dry out! Whst do you think the horses born and bred on the Mongolian steppes do/did. There aint no trees there, nor on the Shetland Isles! Im sorry. I am becoming increasingly disgusted by the 'modern' treatment of the horse. The horse is not a bloody greenhouse plant,. The horse is 500 Ks of blood and muscle who has had the ability to survive and evolve over hundreds of thousands of years. WE DID NOT INVENT THE HORSE. So lets stop destroying what nature has created (as much as is possible). Mairi.
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Stop Mincing your words Mairi and say what you really mean
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Okay, I will stop mincing my words. The majority of horse owners today should not be allowed near a horse. The HORSE has been is being ruined like the English Bulldog. Im sorry if this doesnt sit well with some but the horse is a horse is ahorse-please stop ruining him. The 'shining up' of the family nag has overtaken the need to 'shine up' the family saloon on a Sunday afternoon.
There are in reality, very few equines who are not capable of surviving the natural life (summer).
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nature also provides shelter! which my field doesnt - so that is why i put a rain sheet on my horse when heavy rain is forcast! even in June!!!!!!!!!!!
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FFS, they get wet, they dry out! Whst do you think the horses born and bred on the Mongolian steppes do/did. There aint no trees there, nor on the Shetland Isles! Im sorry. I am becoming increasingly disgusted by the 'modern' treatment of the horse. The horse is not a bloody greenhouse plant,. The horse is 500 Ks of blood and muscle who has had the ability to survive and evolve over hundreds of thousands of years. WE DID NOT INVENT THE HORSE. So lets stop destroying what nature has created (as much as is possible). Mairi.
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Stop Mincing your words Mairi and say what you really mean
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Okay, I will stop mincing my words. The majority of horse owners today should not be allowed near a horse. The HORSE has been is being ruined like the English Bulldog. Im sorry if this doesnt sit well with some but the horse is a horse is ahorse-please stop ruining him. The 'shining up' of the family nag has overtaken the need to 'shine up' the family saloon on a Sunday afternoon.
There are in reality, very few equines who are not capable of surviving the natural life (summer).
Eira
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Okay, I will stop mincing my words. The majority of horse owners today should not be allowed near a horse.
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Oh well now you've said that I will sell up immediately and buy myself a rocking horse that doesn't mind being rugged
Okay, I will stop mincing my words. The majority of horse owners today should not be allowed near a horse.
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Oh well now you've said that I will sell up immediately and buy myself a rocking horse that doesn't mind being rugged
martlin
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Okay, I will stop mincing my words. The majority of horse owners today should not be allowed near a horse.
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Oh well now you've said that I will sell up immediately and buy myself a rocking horse that doesn't mind being rugged
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Would love to follow you in that one, but the selling up immediately is easier said than done I'm afraid
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Okay, I will stop mincing my words. The majority of horse owners today should not be allowed near a horse.
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Oh well now you've said that I will sell up immediately and buy myself a rocking horse that doesn't mind being rugged
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Would love to follow you in that one, but the selling up immediately is easier said than done I'm afraid