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Exactly, I think we are both members of the 'let grey horses be green' club
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lol that's why we have shampoo and hosepipes isn't it?
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Exactly, I think we are both members of the 'let grey horses be green' club
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lol that's why we have shampoo and hosepipes isn't it?
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good luck getting near fizzy with a hose pipe or shampoo
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Mare is a TB, she lives out 24/7 from April - November. However I have to rug her if it looks like rain, she gets rainscald. I am trying to toughen her up by only rainsheeting if its cold/windy and wet but if its warm and wet I leave her naked. I can understand where you come from Mairi, but at the end of the day, like humans, some horses feel the cold more. Added to that the fact that we have domesticated horses so that we can keep them in stables, ride them, groom them and take their natural oils out of their coats etc means that some are not as hardy as nature intended. Plus taking into account these thin skinned breeds such as TB's that were bred to be as they are by humans, not by nature..
 
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not all horses enjoy being horses
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No, absolutely. Only this morning I overheard my horse in the field muttering 'I wish I was a haddock'. Last week he wanted to be a poodle. There's no pleasing some creatures is there?

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....that's made my Tuesday!!!!!!
 
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I think you will find you wont find many tbs on the side of a freezing cold mountain when its lashing down

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Someone on the forum... I forget who, does indeed turn out her TB yearlings on a scottish mountain with no rugs on in winter. Go figure.
 
Wow there really are a few arrogant people on this forum.

I have mine rugless in summer and my appaloosa x is rugless most of the year even in snow. But I can see many reasosn why people might rug in LW turnouts overnight in the summer months. If it rained heavily I would rug my TB's, I'm not having them stood shivering and soaked through to their skin.

I can't believe is the KIA attitude and the 'I am right and only my opinion matters' - it's not what you think, it's how you put it across that mattters. I'm glad I'm not on a yard with some of you that's all I can say!
 
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Why is Mairi so angry?

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Do you really want her to repeat her entire post? I thought it was pretty clear.

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There are things I get angry about.....injustice/unfairness/taxes and uncontrolled immigration. Other peoples choices as to whether to rug their horses or not doesnt wind me up....lifes too short.

Cant believe this threads still running...but then again I have just contributed to its lifespan so i'll shut up now
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You seem to forget that June in Italy is nothing like June in England. Does it really matter? Our two had rain sheets on the other night because we had a weather warning of torrential rain, and one of them was going to a dressage competition the next morning. We are on clay soil. The other horse is a very thin-skinned wimp. Guess what? They survived! I work on the principle that if a horse is shivering and miserable, it would probably be better off with a light waterproof rug. On the same principle, when we have warm winter days, they go out naked. We tend to go by the thermometer rather than the calendar.
 
Oh don't be facetious!
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What I meant was that if the horses body feels 'toasty' then they're too hot!!!!!!!
 
Have to say, if i knew it was going to be raining hard i would rug Blue in a LW TO as i have just full clipped him and i wouldn't want to risk him getting rainscald !
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However, once his coat has grown back to normal summer coat he most likely will not have a rug on again until either he is clipped and its raining again or until the Autumn
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Yes, and I'm sure you & everyone else knew what I meant...!!!!!!!!
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By the way, would it be possible to do a picture for me? Your signature looks amazing and I'd love a pic of my boy & my labrador Daisy!!!!!! Should I PM you for prices etc.? Or do you have a website?
 
Well I am anti OVER rugging and tbh don't rug as a rule but since getting Benji Meldrew who is a prize wimp I've had to start and have to say its quite addictive.
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I find myself checking out the rug section of Mole Valley on my weeky visit to see if theres anything I can get!!
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Having said that...he isn't rugged atm but would be if the temps dropped. Why sit and watch him miserable when I can pop a rug on him and cheer him up.
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I can cope without a coat on but won't if it makes me miserable.
My Welsh A had never been rugged in all her 15 yrs up until this year. She's lived high up on the side of a valley in all weather 24/7 all year round unrugged but she's aged all of a sudden and just needs some tlc. I've just gone to check her...its raining..albeit lightly, and the temps have dropped a touch. She is shivering...I don't want her to shiver so I've popped her in a stable and rugged her in her bright pink Cuddly Pony's rug
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No, absolutely. Only this morning I overheard my horse in the field muttering 'I wish I was a haddock'. Last week he wanted to be a poodle. There's no pleasing some creatures is there?

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In case nobody else have said it, do you know Kareef that there's a thread in Soapbox about you winning the award of the funniest post ever? ( http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/sh...ID=#Post4504945 )

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Crickey! There's another variable to consider in this to rug or not to rug debate - where you are in the country!!!!
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We were at a Wedding on Saturday and it was really quite pleasant even at midnight and after - I would say maybe 17 degress to be honest!
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I happen to live in the Shetland isles with a tbx and a shetland pony. Typical temperatures at the moment are <>5degrees overnight and a max of 12 or 13degrees during the day. The pony does not possess a rug but on a day like today then the tbx is rugged- torrential rain and strong winds. I put on his rainsheet to start with but that started to leak so he now has a 70g rug on and is far happier- out grazing as opposed to sheltering and miserable by the fence. He also prefers to be out regardless of the weather so would rather he was out rugged than standing bored in a stable.

Mostly he is naked at this time of year but when it rains continuously like today, he is far happier with something on.

Everyone's circumstances and horses are different- each to their own unless the horse is suffering, I say. If it doesn't affect me and my horse, why should I worry what anyone else does!

In response to the post about field shelters- find me one that can withstand 70-100mile an hour winds in winter and I'll put one up!
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nature also provides shelter! which my field doesnt - so that is why i put a rain sheet on my horse when heavy rain is forcast! even in June!!!!!!!!!!!

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FFS, they get wet, they dry out! Whst do you think the horses born and bred on the Mongolian steppes do/did. There aint no trees there, nor on the Shetland Isles! Im sorry. I am becoming increasingly disgusted by the 'modern' treatment of the horse. The horse is not a bloody greenhouse plant,. The horse is 500 Ks of blood and muscle who has had the ability to survive and evolve over hundreds of thousands of years. WE DID NOT INVENT THE HORSE. So lets stop destroying what nature has created (as much as is possible). Mairi.

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Stop Mincing your words Mairi and say what you really mean
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Okay, I will stop mincing my words. The majority of horse owners today should not be allowed near a horse. The HORSE has been is being ruined like the English Bulldog. Im sorry if this doesnt sit well with some but the horse is a horse is ahorse-please stop ruining him. The 'shining up' of the family nag has overtaken the need to 'shine up' the family saloon on a Sunday afternoon.
There are in reality, very few equines who are not capable of surviving the natural life (summer).

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bloomin heck,, what an aggressive post, and what about????? rugs on horses in wet, cold windy, weather, just coz its june doesnt mean the british weather is switched to HOT, its changeable!!! why get so irrate about something so silly,, why not direct your energy and aggression towards a more worthy cause!!! Praps a little oil on the hinge, and a bit of retraction in the neck department needed!!!
 
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In response to the post about field shelters- find me one that can withstand 70-100mile an hour winds in winter and I'll put one up!
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Here you are
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They DO work because lots of people around here have them and we live in a flaming wind tunnel. This is a North American company but surely there must be similar designs somewhere in the UK!
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Hi, thanks for this- I had spotted your shelter on one of your previous posts (ages ago!) and I did think it would be ideal- I have hunted and hunted on line but can't find any in the UK- they're all either would or lightweight temp style metal ones.
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We have a wooden double stable that was well strapped down but still needed the roof replacing two weeks in!

Perhaps a business opportunity for some enterprising soul!!!
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I can't believe there has been such a HUGE debate simply about whether horses should be wearing rugs or not!

I think it is down the horse itself and how it cope with the weather. Our 30 year old Thoroughbred is turned out naked, if it is really hot he will wear a fly sheet and if it rains, he wears a LW Turnout rug because he doesn't like the rain. Our Welsh Section A is naked for most of the year but we do have a LW Turnout rug for her if the weather is very cold and wet. Both of my other boys, one of them being a cob are out naked if it is hot in the summer and rugged up if it rains - it keeps them cleaner and tbh they don't enjoy standing in the rain that much! In the winter, they are all rugged up just about all of the time!
 
I agree with Mairi that we have mollycoddled our horses and are over protective. But they are not all horses that are equipped to live naturally in the hills. We have bred horses that are thin skinned and fine coated. My tb was never bred to live in extreme conditions, she would have spent the first half of her life in a stable She was brought out to train or race le and rarely allowed to kick up her heels like some horses.
I went up this morning, she was out with my sec a, who has a rain sheet on because he is knocking on a bit and didn't come out of the winter well, and an unrugged connie X. everyone else was fine but she was chittering and that was with a rain sheet on. Her teeth were actually chattering and that was with a rain sheet on
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. I would love not to have to watch the forecast to see whether to rug or not, but it just isn't worth it to go up and find a miserable horse.
Unfortunately, like me, she is a bit high maintenance.
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However Mairi, when Brooke and I come over for our holidays, i will leave the rugs behind, she is a total sun worshipper.
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Oh she also needs sun cream for her nose.
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I have just read a post where the owner of a cob asked advice regarding a non choke waterproof rug. The cob in question is RUGGED up IN JUNE!!!
WHY!!!
In all of my years, living, eating and shitting horse, why would someone want to rug up ANY animal in JUNE????Horseslove rolling in mud, horses love the feel of rain on their backs.When it rains, there are no flies.When it rains it is a sheer pleasure to feel the rain drops land on your back.When it rains the grass is sweeter. When it rains.....YOU DONT BRAKE MY BALLS COS YOU WILL GET WET:
Please, lets allow the horses to be as nature intended (as much as we can)! Horses were meant to be horses. Mairi.
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Gosh Mairi, I haven't read the original post but I totally agree on the basis of what you have written here!

My cob has been sans rug since early March, and even then he was only in the lightest rug possible. AND HE WAS CLIPPED!

My warmblood has been treated exactly the same, except he does now wear a sweetitch rug. The only difference is, he is fed some Alfa A chaff with his vits and the cob gets half a handful of hifi lite instead!

I totally agree with you. I sometimes read posts from people panicking about whether it's raining and their horse needs to come in or be rugged upto the eyeballs and I'm agog, because the last thing on my mind is rugging a horse because it is raining.

However... different strokes for different folks I guess.
 
If it is showers, then no rug. But mare is elderly and has always been a wuss in the wet, plus she has anti-inflams for her arthritis which lower her body temperature which means she genuinely does feel the cold more than "normal". Yes, shivering is a perfectly natural reaction, but when even their facial muscles are shivering then for me, that is too much so on goes her rainsheet. Also, there is no shelter whatsoever in her field and the wind can really rip across it. Incidentally, I personally get cold very easily too and I can assure that still shivering 4 hours (fully clothed) after a spell in an outdoor swimming pool is horrible.
 
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