Man dies after being bitten by his own dog?

my point is that a jr couldn't physically tear your face off but your rottie could !!
It was common when I was a postie for someone to get bitten and the owner would always look astonished and say the dog had never done anything like that before.
 
My neighbours kid begs to differ

He has been left with scarring and had loads of stitches after a friends JR bit his face
 
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my point is that a jr couldn't physically tear your face off

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may have to disagree with you there
 
I was just going to say that of course a JRT could tear the face off a child. Are we only concerned with dogs would could cause serious damage to an adult?!!

I bet most/all of the dogs who attacked posties that you knew where not pit bulls or rotties
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Why are you so hot under the collar about this? No one here is saying that people shouldn't be very careful with large guarding breeds! Also pit bulls are illegal. All we need there is for the law to be reinforced.

A 12 year old child was just killed when her pony fell on her. That sort of thing happens more frequently than people being killed by dogs. Should we ban ponies?
 
like i said before any dog can bite, I think we've gone too far away from todays case which was a rottie that killed its owner. I have just looked up the details of what happened and even allowing for our sensationalist media its horrific.
I originally posted on here because I was amazed that anyone could try and justify or excuse these attacks and nothing anyone has said has altered my view at all. try googling rottweiler attacks and jack russell attacks and see the difference.
 
I have rottie n wouldnt change to a different breed for anyone, I have grown up with since i was 2 months old and i am sick to death of ppl goin on about ur dogs should be kill n band from the UK.A dog will atack anyone but will have to think why it did that there will b a reason for it. I will will say i think the small the dog the it will bite ppl (i know i am prob askin for it now). I think really the media like to find any story about a rotie n blow it up big n saying that this story has been but most storys are.
 
for gods sake bonny

ANY animal can kill - a cat can suffocate a child with its hair if it lays to close. would the cat be put down? NO.
it would just be seen as a tragic accident.

put a rottie in the cats place - well whos fault would it be then??

i grew up with a lovely rottie.
i learnt to walk - using him as a support.
i used to grab his skin and yank myself up on him and NEVER went for me EVER.

ok so this was 22yrs ago and with the bad press now my parents probably wouldnt put me in the same scenario as the dog ( just in case you were about to slate my parents)

but you really are being narrow minded on this.
 
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I cannot understand why anyone wants a pet capable of doing this - surely a pet should be a family friend not something capable of such savagary.

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I cannot understand why people feel the need to own a supposed pet dog that is as large as a grown man and if it attacks can kill.

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I have a large-breed dog weighing at more than the weight of many adults. She is easily capable of killing a grown human being, and has indeed been specifically bred to kill bears and wolves. She is an Akbash which have the classification of Livestock Guardian Dog. She is here to do a job but she is also raised as a family dog along with all our other family dogs.

I also have a Malinois which are shepherd/guard dogs. She is capable of restraining an adult and capable of inflicting serious wounds to a person.

I also have a Springer Spaniel X Collie and her puppy. These two are friendly happy little dogs who are really of no use to me except to make me smile.

All of my dogs are excellent with people and all of our animals on site however I use the same precautions with the big dogs as I do with the smaller dogs, as would anyone with any sense.

There is something not quite right about this case however. Something does not ring true for me - it is highly unusual for a Rottweiler to attack, let alone kill its pack leader (the owner). It is VERY usual for a Rottweiler to try to help it's pack leader in the case of an emergency. It is also VERY usual for a Rottweiler to protect it's pack leader to the death. No doubt once the autopsy has been completed, what happened will become apparent.

A sad case though.
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because a dog is rarely vicious without humans/its owners/its circumstances causing it to be

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Maybe, but it does happen. I used to work with a woman who once kept Rotties, she was walking her dog one day and it suddenly attacked her. It broke her arm in several places and she was only saved when a passing motorist stopped and managed to get the dog off her (by hitting it with a spade). She had to have 7 operations on her arm and still only has limited movement. This was a pet she had had from a puppy, it had been trained by her and had always been a lovely pet. While I agree that any dog can attack you the size and strength of these large breeds means that the damage they can inflict is much worse then that of a small terrier.
 
Look out troll brigade methinks.

I have a JRT and he could easily rip my face off is he wanted to. As could my old mongrel and could indeed most breeds. We're talking about descendants of the wolf - and thats ALL of them - so dont generalise about rotties GSD's etc because its simply not true.

You hear of them more because the media likes to play up to morons who will only believe that what they hear on the news is all thats happening!!!!!!

Horses kill people, dogs doo, Im sure the odd cat has caused serious injury - we cant get rid of them all.
 
I think Stella's story makes it perfectly clear that even the best brought up dog can "turn" and become dangerous, not because of problems with its current owner, but because of problems in the breeding. Stella did the responsible thing when it became apparent that her dog was super-aggressive - she returned it to the breeder and probably the breeder did the even more responsible thing and had it PTS.

Thing is, if its a dog like a collie, or a mongrel, they probably won't have the strength in their jaws to do the sort of damage that a bull breed or something like a Rottie can do. I don't believe that bull breeds are inhernetly more dangerous than other breeds, but i do believe that if you don't select the pup very carefully and train them very very well, then you run the risk of having an aggressive dog further down the line.

PS. Text speak is very hard to read. There are minimal character limitations on these posts, try writing words out in full.
 
I heard someone who knows the man and the dog and who witnessed the incident say that he thought tha man had collapsed and that the dog was trying to bring him round and drag him home. He said it was nothing like it had been reported. I suppose by the time other people and the police got involved that the dog was well and truly frightened and turned on everyone.
 
From the picture the dog looks quite placid, but who knows what happened? The owner was elderly; perhaps he had some sort of medical event which caused the dog to panic and turn on him. I don't believe that the dog was trying to help him. I think there is a point about certain breeds of dogs. Rottweilers were originally bred to herd cattle; they are specifically bred to tackle objects larger than themselves. There is so much indiscriminate breeding of dogs, particularly the 'butch' type, that temperamental faults can be passed on. Years ago Alsatians were the dog of choice for the Press, and I happened to own one. He was the best trained dog I have ever owned (I had more time then...), and the softest - but I never left him alone with my children. I think there is no doubt that some breeds are more likely to attack then others, as it is in their breeding. I cannot recall anyone being mauled to death by a Great Dane or a Springer Spaniel, for example. If you decide to buy a Rottie, or a Bull Terrier etc etc, you have to be keenly aware of what that particular breed can be capable of.
 
tia, I have only been on this forum for a few months and you sound like a sensible, knowledgable person with animals but I genuinely don't see why you want to own dogs capable of inflicting the kind of damage you are talking about.
I'm guessing you have them as guard dogs but in my mind if you think the dog would or might attack a stranger it also could attack someone that it knows ? Also do you think it acceptable that a dog would attack a stranger ? no abuse from anyone please I would just like to know what you think
 
I know, Lets ban humans as we kill all sorts of things! They can easily butcher and kill whatever we please, some even with our bare hands!

Humans can be kind and gentle one minute and then the smallest thing can make them flip and want to do someone or something harm. If they are left with long enough claws they can gouge eyes out or tear flesh.

Their temperament is usually a direct result of their surrounding, but they can be easily conditioned to harm or maim. Also when provided with the right materials they can be extremely deadly to an animal of any size, whether it knows the animal or not. Some are even deadly and violent for fun!
 
When I heard this on the radio yesterday I thought it sounded odd. An awful freak accident perhaps. Whay a shame for the old boy and the dog though.
BONNY, the fact you can't understand why anyone would want to own a dog bigger that a pekingese, or presumably a horse, car or electric carving knife due to the potential for a breach of H&S rules, doesn't mean that owning such a thing is automatically WRONG.
 
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I think Stella's story makes it perfectly clear that even the best brought up dog can "turn" and become dangerous, not because of problems with its current owner, but because of problems in the breeding. Stella did the responsible thing when it became apparent that her dog was super-aggressive - she returned it to the breeder and probably the breeder did the even more responsible thing and had it PTS.

Thing is, if its a dog like a collie, or a mongrel, they probably won't have the strength in their jaws to do the sort of damage that a bull breed or something like a Rottie can do. I don't believe that bull breeds are inhernetly more dangerous than other breeds, but i do believe that if you don't select the pup very carefully and train them very very well, then you run the risk of having an aggressive dog further down the line.

PS. Text speak is very hard to read. There are minimal character limitations on these posts, try writing words out in full.

[/ QUOTE ] Yes, it was very upsetting for us and as a result, we decided not to get a 'guarding' breed again and we ended up with two standard poodles (they were originally bred as water retrieving gun dogs, so not that woosie!). Layla my Rottie bitch taught me that they can be wonderful dogs and Charlie taught me how powerful and dangerious it can be when they are aggressive. People just need to be realistic, not get carried away calling them 'devil dogs'!

I second the Text speak thing too. Its very hard to read and belongs only in a text!! A spot of punctuation would be appreciated too!!
 
A terrible tragedy for the man and his family. I'm not going to speculate as to what actually happened, though I do know that if you lie motionless on the floor many dogs will start pawing at you etc. However, does anyone else not find it strange that this is quite low key in the news, recent dog attacks have made headlines for days. Makes me thiink that this is not an out and out dog attack and there may be more to the story than we have yet heard.
 
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