Man jailed for protecting family from social svs
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Maesfen
Extremely Old Nag!
How sad. This country has gone mad, I am so glad I'm not a youngster growing up in it any more (think that's the only plus on getting old so far!)
Interesting that the most scathing comments which you would have expected to have come from us, actually came from America!
Interesting that the most scathing comments which you would have expected to have come from us, actually came from America!
Vicki1986
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I too found that interesting.
I also found the comment asking "why is this abduction" quite interesting too, as the boy walked out into the street, he was not adbducted or taken agaisnt his will which is what i thought abduction meant.
Unfortunately an example has been made to stop others fighting back against social svs which is simply not fair
i have made 2 comments under the story but they havent put them on yet/if they will at all as i dont think they post all comments
What social services have actually done is sent a battered vulnerable woman (by her ex not current husband) out into a unknown country where she does not speak the language i presume, with an 8yr old hyperactive child who has issues due to being in an emotionally abusive care home for 2 years - and now a premature baby also. I wouldnt have thought this was the outcome anyone wanted really. The whole system is a total shambles!
I also found the comment asking "why is this abduction" quite interesting too, as the boy walked out into the street, he was not adbducted or taken agaisnt his will which is what i thought abduction meant.
Unfortunately an example has been made to stop others fighting back against social svs which is simply not fair
i have made 2 comments under the story but they havent put them on yet/if they will at all as i dont think they post all comments
What social services have actually done is sent a battered vulnerable woman (by her ex not current husband) out into a unknown country where she does not speak the language i presume, with an 8yr old hyperactive child who has issues due to being in an emotionally abusive care home for 2 years - and now a premature baby also. I wouldnt have thought this was the outcome anyone wanted really. The whole system is a total shambles!
the watcher
Well-Known Member
The danger with commenting on press reports is that you have only got half the information - therefore I don't have a view in this case as there is not enough to form one.
It is a hugely sad situation though.
It is a hugely sad situation though.
Vicki1986
Well-Known Member
Totally understand what you mean.
The sotry has been in local press before and has not been fully or properly reported which is very frustrating.
I do have the full facts unfortuantely. It is very sad.
The sotry has been in local press before and has not been fully or properly reported which is very frustrating.
I do have the full facts unfortuantely. It is very sad.
YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
Unfortunately the social services will not be able to comment on the case as they have a duty to maintain confidentiality. Unless you are in the court you are unlikely to have knowledge of all the facts in the case.
alleycat
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I feel that where people are forced into acts of such desperation to retain some hold on their life, the authorities ARE in the wrong; they have failed in their duty to these people- adults and children- already.
Social services are surely supposed to help, support and protect vulnerable people; not alienate them until they feel they have to do something like this.
Social services are surely supposed to help, support and protect vulnerable people; not alienate them until they feel they have to do something like this.
Vicki1986
Well-Known Member
Its about my family so yep do have the full facts. To be honest wish i didnt its horribley frustating as you cant beat social svs - if you challenge their obviously wrong desicions and gross errors in fact and judgement you are deemed 'difficult' and they make life even harder for you.
YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
I'm afraid that you will still only have one version of the facts, I am not suggesting that all social workers get it right all the time, but even family members are not always aware of everything that has happened in the family, even when they live in the same house.
alleycat
Well-Known Member
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if you challenge their obviously wrong desicions and gross errors in fact and judgement you are deemed 'difficult' and they make life even harder for you.
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So true-
Local Government; Social Services, Benefits Departments, Housing Offices and the like:
Lack of accountability;a total turning around of the client / service provider situation so that the service provider assumes an inappropriate role of authority and power; a patronizing and pre-judgemental attitude toward the client with gross assumptions made as to abilities, intelligence, education, competence, life-style, expectations, honesty and general worth as a human being; a culture of covering one's own back and never admitting a fault or making a decision based on common sense.
I've seen this in my own work and I'm now experiencing it at first hand (briefly, I hope) as a council house tenant- eg. the patronising housing dept. employee who expects me to be in during working hours because, after all, council house tenants don't do any meaningful work, and his colleague who, with a fine disregard for the science of building failure, tells me that the damp in every room of my flat (due to a selection of building repair & maintenance issues- as now confirmed by a surveyor) is due to my lifestyle- "Condensation- you can Open your Windows like THIS, you know, and it will make your rooms Nice and Dry... "
Meanwhile the few good people in these departments shoulder the real work and go slowly mad....
This is as nothing compared to what Vicki's family must be suffering; but its the thin end of the same wedge; and whatever happened here, the people who were supposed to help her family have FAILED; and as ever, its the clients, the parents and especially the children, who suffer for it.
if you challenge their obviously wrong desicions and gross errors in fact and judgement you are deemed 'difficult' and they make life even harder for you.
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So true-
Local Government; Social Services, Benefits Departments, Housing Offices and the like:
Lack of accountability;a total turning around of the client / service provider situation so that the service provider assumes an inappropriate role of authority and power; a patronizing and pre-judgemental attitude toward the client with gross assumptions made as to abilities, intelligence, education, competence, life-style, expectations, honesty and general worth as a human being; a culture of covering one's own back and never admitting a fault or making a decision based on common sense.
I've seen this in my own work and I'm now experiencing it at first hand (briefly, I hope) as a council house tenant- eg. the patronising housing dept. employee who expects me to be in during working hours because, after all, council house tenants don't do any meaningful work, and his colleague who, with a fine disregard for the science of building failure, tells me that the damp in every room of my flat (due to a selection of building repair & maintenance issues- as now confirmed by a surveyor) is due to my lifestyle- "Condensation- you can Open your Windows like THIS, you know, and it will make your rooms Nice and Dry... "
Meanwhile the few good people in these departments shoulder the real work and go slowly mad....
This is as nothing compared to what Vicki's family must be suffering; but its the thin end of the same wedge; and whatever happened here, the people who were supposed to help her family have FAILED; and as ever, its the clients, the parents and especially the children, who suffer for it.
Vicki1986
Well-Known Member
i appreciate what you mean and you are right i suppose no one has the FULL facts - not even the social then really, as they have a biased and warped judgement. i dont even like my step mother (that was mild) but even i can't stand what has happened to her child, its disgusting. he used to be fine and know after 2 years of fostering for his own welfare (?!) he is loopy and no doubt scarred for life.