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pebblemania

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I have just been told by my vet to get some manuka honey for a pretty serious wound on my mares leg. Having never bought the stuff before and seen a massive amount of sites on the web can anyone recommend the best place to get some?

Thanks in advance.

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I think to be 'medicinal grade' it has to have active manuka factor (AMF) of 10+ or greater so anything like that should do the trick. Holland and barrats also has loads!
 
I went to a seminar on wound healing last night & they had done a study that said 20+ was the best for wound healing. They also said that it was best to buy the medical version ( sorry can't remember it's name) coz it has less bacteria in it than it supermarket counterparts . It goes through some special process. I'll try to remember what it was called. X
 
tubby1 said:
I went to a seminar on wound healing last night & they had done a study that said 20+ was the best for wound healing. They also said that it was best to buy the medical version ( sorry can't remember it's name) coz it has less bacteria in it than it supermarket counterparts . It goes through some special process. I'll try to remember what it was called. X
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Medical grade manuka is prepared using gamma irradiation, rather than pasteurisation (which is the process used for food grade). There is a risk of chlostridium Botulinum spores becoming viable again as pasteurised honey is introduced into a wound environment, which is why it isn't recommended for wounds. I've contributed to a thread in Veterinary about it - but got pretty much shouted down, as everyone seems to be perfectly happy to use food grade. It is a small risk, but not one I personally would be willing to take.http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=513653
 
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And you need to read between the lines with supermarket honey - it is often marketed as +10 UMF Manuka when in fact, it 'contains' +10 Manuka - the proportion of manuka it contains is often VERY minimal.
 
Thanks everyone it is a massive help. The size and severity of this wound means I too will not take a risk with food grade honey so will make sure it is medical grade.

Any more ideas welcome!

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pebblemania said:
Thanks everyone it is a massive help. The size and severity of this wound means I too will not take a risk with food grade honey so will make sure it is medical grade.

Any more ideas welcome!

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I can get you some help from a wound specialist who uses manuka if you're interested? She will be able to advise the best application.
 
Stencilface said:
Not sure if this is medical grade but Holland and Barrett sell it and they've always been really helpful

http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=4205&prodid=4922&cid=198
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It isn't. It won't say on it that it isn't - but the bit that says "not suitable for infants under 12 months is the giveaway". The reason it isn't suitable is because its pasteurised, so carries an increased risk of botulism or other nasties.

Im reluctant to name names (as one of them is a company I have done some work for), except by PM, but there are relatively few companies selling medical grade manuka in this country. It isn't available in shops, except for one brand that you can buy in pharmacies
 
You do not say what injury your horse has but I hope it is nt as bad one a yarling I have did at the beginning of August.

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It was stitched but they broke down within three days. Started off using Manuka Honey 30+ but that was very messy, ran off the wound and attracted all sorts of insects.
I started using pure Neem Oil which was doing a lot of good.

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I was then told about an American product Resolve Wound and sent for some.
The difference in the speed of healing was astounding.
From

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To this in less than three weeks.

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It literally needs painting on with a little paintbrush and a thin layer. Over such a large area I have just finished a 2 oz jar.
The amazing thing is that where the flap was there was a large bulky area and that is almost done. The skin near the flank is definitely coming forward and the seller of the Resolve is saying she is sure that it will barely be scarred.

Look at the pictures of a leg wound - which was worse than my yearlings because of the tendons and ligaments involved and the amount of proud flesh already there.
 
Auslander that would be amazing. I haven't posted on here what has happened as I was a little worried about getting jumped on for why / how the accident happened.

On Saturday morning I found her in the field with a wire cut from the fencing. It had gone straight through the front hind right up to the bone. She is exceptionally lucky as she has not damaged her flexor tendon at all and has avoided all joints, she also has not ripped her leg - it almost looks like it has sliced in and come straight out.

She was cleaned and bandaged immediately by the vet and put on box rest. He returned today to change her bandage after I had done on Monday and it is looking fantastic. Very clean, no swelling or infection. He has now progressed to changing the bandage every four days but has suggested the honey on the fleshy parts.

My concern is her severed extensor tendon and the long term effects of this.

Just some additional information for someone who obviously knows what they are talking about so please no comments on fencing or what should have prevented it asks there is no use crying over spilt milk!

Once again I really am grateful for help and advice to get my baby on the mend.

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I think there are many people on here with wire fencing, me included! Horses would injure themselves in a field full of cotton wool, and those who won't admit that need to me some horses I've met ove the years lol :)
 
Foxhunter49 said:
It was stitched but they broke down within three days. Started off using Manuka Honey 30+ but that was very messy, ran off the wound and attracted all sorts of insects.
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Sorry - not meaning to take away from the success of the product you used, in the end, because the results were fantastic, but I did just want to say one teeny little thing about your comment re manuka.

This a prime example of the importance of choosing the right application -in an ideal world, a wound like that would have been treated with manuka impregnated tulle dressings, which are designed to be used in wounds. They stay put, aren't sticky, and maintain a sterile wound environment, without any of the problems you experienced with messiness, running, flies etc.
 
pebblemania said:
Auslander that would be amazing. I haven't posted on here what has happened as I was a little worried about getting jumped on for why / how the accident happened.

On Saturday morning I found her in the field with a wire cut from the fencing. It had gone straight through the front hind right up to the bone. She is exceptionally lucky as she has not damaged her flexor tendon at all and has avoided all joints, she also has not ripped her leg - it almost looks like it has sliced in and come straight out.

She was cleaned and bandaged immediately by the vet and put on box rest. He returned today to change her bandage after I had done on Monday and it is looking fantastic. Very clean, no swelling or infection. He has now progressed to changing the bandage every four days but has suggested the honey on the fleshy parts.

My concern is her severed extensor tendon and the long term effects of this.

Just some additional information for someone who obviously knows what they are talking about so please no comments on fencing or what should have prevented it asks there is no use crying over spilt milk!

Once again I really am grateful for help and advice to get my baby on the mend.

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PM me your email address - I'll get you some help xx
 
Stencilface said:
Holy moly foxhunter, how the hell did it on that?! :eek:
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He, two other yearling and two empty brood mares had the run of two field, the gate was tied open. Whilst waiting for the vet I went to see what he could have done it on and the culprit was the gate latch.

The latch was part pulled out of the post and flattened - I can only imagine that they were charging through the gate at a gallop and he was shoved against the latch. The injury was far lower than the latch so he must have been reaching up as in a gallop stride.

He caught it on the rounded side not the pointed bit.
Needless to say no latches only chains from now on!

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The farrier tried to straighten the latch on his anvil with very little movement at all!
 
Have found one called medihoney made by a company in nz. Has anyone experiences with this?

The site states medical grade and it no where says not suitable for under a year old etc buuuutttttt it does not state a umf score?
 
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