Mare with inconsistent behaviour - ulcers? Other suggestions?

soloequestrian

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My mare is a conundrum.
When I go to catch her she is pleased to see me and always happy to come in. I ride in the mornings - at that time she hates being brushed and threatens to bite and kick most days though not all. I think she's slightly worse when in season but it's not a clear pattern and her seasons aren't very obvious. She particularly hates me brushing her right hand side to the point where I quite often leave the girth area on that side or brush it by reaching under from the left. She hates being tacked up, though she is better if I put the bridle on first and then the saddle. Occasionally she stands quietly but more often threatens to bite and kick. If it was someone else's horse I would immediately say that the tack hurts but I've been very careful with her tack and I'm confident that it's comfortable; she also very rarely reacts to the girth being done up or tightened - often the reactions seem more to do with ticklishness than pain e.g. she's as bad about having the numnah put on as the saddle itself; she gets cross if the girth brushes against her but doesn't care when it's firmly tightened. Once tack is on she turns back into a normal horse except if I try to check her girth by putting my finger underneath - she really hates that. She's not keen on me getting on if we're in the school, if we're going on a hack she doesn't react at all (both always off a mounting block). Once I'm on there are no signs of discomfort and although she is alert and can be spooky she also enjoys trying new things, marches out on hacks and generally seems to quite like being ridden; she's very willing to stretch.
She is on 'Sassy Mare', which seems to help a bit with the spooking, and a general mineral supplement that contains magnesium. She's out 24/7 with friends and ad lib forage, she gets the minerals in one small feed in the evening. She can be silly to brush in the evening too unless she's itchy when I am encouraged to be firm with the curry comb in all the places she objects to in the morning, including her girth area.
If this sounds like ulcers, where do I start? Is it a vet job straight away or is it worth trying supplements myself? Any other suggestions?
It's getting me down a bit - neither of us enjoy the morning brush and tack up and it would be nice to not dread that bit of my day. I do try to be positive and reward her whenever she stands quietly but it doesn't seem to be working.
 

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She's KWPN. I use a plastic curry comb on her which sounds daft but I've tried a nice soft body brush, a courser dandy brush and one of those grooming mitt things and she had the same reaction to all of them. She's got a Wow Free Space girth (see other thread!), previously had a Fairfax.
 

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My boy probably has ulcers as he was a racer and those are the same telltale signs. He loves being ridden but pull a rug over his back and he makes some faces and lifts his leg. Would never kick out . I just do everything really slowly, i make him do carrot bends before tightening the girth, and he is fine after that.
someone had recommended coligone to me so I have been trialling it this week, so far no huge difference? So i am now wondering whether the 72 quid starter pack I just bought will be worth it? we will soon see.
 

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Maybe she just doesn't like being brushed I have known some mares that really don't like being touched or brushed.

I would limit the brushing and the areas she particularly doesn't like, fwiw I have Arab's and they will take great offence to certain brushes they are fine with the leather backed body brushes, they don't like anything rough but they actually quite like the metal hair shedder and I do use metal pan scourers to get mud off and they are fine with that.

Neither of mine like the girth done up too tight initially I do it really loose first then leave it for a bit then I can tighten it up and they are fine I don't have any experience of the girth you use but they seem to really make a difference to some horses.

If your really concerned you could speak to your vet about it see what they say.
 

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The fact that she is worse on the right makes me suspect hind gut issues. My mare went from wanting to murder me if I brushed her to enjoying it after I got on top of her hind gut issues.

Hind gut ulcers are diagnosed in a live horse by history and symptoms, they can't be scoped for. The only definitive diagnosis for them is by post mortem exam.

Have a read of this thread.

Though maybe your mare just doesn't like being brushed!

https://forums.horseandhound.co.uk/threads/has-anyone-had-the-equibiome-test-done.796673/
 

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Thanks, had a look at the equibiome stuff. It seems a bit vague - are each of those biome feeds actually tailored to individual horses i.e. they are different every time they're sent out? How long do they last and do they need to be fed forever or just until the biome is in better health? She doesn't have any obvious digestive problems - good, consistent weight, not gassy or bloated, droppings are a nice consistency.
 
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