mare won't come out of season (rig)

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My mare lives in a field with 8 other geldings not through choice just that is what she has been put with at livery yard (only 3 mares on whole yard) anyway she was in season for 2 weeks straight one week ago then came out of season for around 4 /5 days now back in season obviously this isn't normal is it ?? and this is the first time she has been like this, there is a gelding in the field who apprently before she came had been tested and was not a rig however he will not stop mounting her and it's getting past the ridiculous point of I can't get her back into the field without him trying to mount her and this causes fights between the rest of the geldings her 2 friends who are trying to chase away him although she does stand and take it obviously not what I want as previously sacroiliac problems and cant be good for her to keep being mounted , I have spoken to horse owner and yard owner and they say there is no problem he can't do anything although this is still unfair on my mare as I cannot get her out of season, I would also like to breed from her next year to and is this cycle that she seems to have got into have any affect on this?. Please help!
 
Hmmm ... sounds like the 'gelding' could be a rig, in which case it is entirely possible for him to get your mare in foal. I would in the first instance move your mare! Her cycle does seem a bit odd. I would think a scan to see if she is ovulating and a course of Regumate might do the trick. But there are far more experienced folks than me on the board here who have seen it all and can give excellent advice. Anyone?
 
Trust me - if a mare doesn't want to be mounted they won't let the gelding near them! She's being a tease...

On a serious note - I'd get her ovaries scanned as that's not normal. You could try Angus castus to see if that helps her at all.
 
Am I right in thinking cysts can cause such behaviour?

EQUIDAE said:
Trust me - if a mare doesn't want to be mounted they won't let the gelding near them! She's being a tease...

On a serious note - I'd get her ovaries scanned as that's not normal. You could try Angus castus to see if that helps her at all.
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Thanks for replies , I thought it wasn't possible for a rig to get a mare pregnant :/ I don't really have much knowledge on breeding hence why post but what is regulate ? Also would anybody have any idea on the cost of getting her overvies scan and can a cyst be dangerous to her ? The mare is 12 thanks
 
There are a number of TB stallions, for example, who have spent their whole - and very successful - careers as rigs, the top sire High Line being one of them. I would think the only way they could be certain the 'gelding' can't sire foals is to castrate him. I can't imagine there is a test other than a semen quality test that will indicate if he is firing blanks, and if he's a gelding that would be quite difficult, I imagine, although I'm not certain about that. There may be a procedure that can do this?

Anyway, Regumate is often used to regulate ovulation etc. As for costs ... I've always had scanning done as part of the stud fee/breeding package, but if you can travel your mare to an experienced vet that might help keep costs down, although some mares have to be sedated during the procedure. Cysts can muck up her cycle and can often make a mare difficult to deal with while in constant or almost constant season. I don't know what the long-term issues might be. There are many Trusty Advisors on the forum who can help you on that.

emmaa15 said:
Thanks for replies , I thought it wasn't possible for a rig to get a mare pregnant :/ I don't really have much knowledge on breeding hence why post but what is regulate ? Also would anybody have any idea on the cost of getting her overvies scan and can a cyst be dangerous to her ? The mare is 12 thanks
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If she was in for two weeks then it makes sense that she came back in approx a week after finishing. Some mares just have long seasons. May not be conventional but it happens. If your worried about her get a scan of the ovaries but don't assume a rig or gelding will MAKE her season. Even a stallion won't MAKE them season.
 
equi said:
If she was in for two weeks then it makes sense that she came back in approx a week after finishing. Some mares just have long seasons. May not be conventional but it happens. If your worried about her get a scan of the ovaries but don't assume a rig or gelding will MAKE her season. Even a stallion won't MAKE them season.
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This - I have a stallion and he does not affect my 2 mares' seasons in any way.
 
Mares often 'show' to a stallion (or a randy rig) even when they're not in season. A stallion will KNOW they're just flirting. My boy used to be turned out very close to mares with foals at foot who were already in foal (to him) again. When you turned him out, mares would rush to the fence, stand and squirt furiously. He'd go over, say 'Hi girls' - then back to the grass. Of course, if he HAD got in with them and tried anything they would have kicked him into the middle of next week.

Mares will continue to show randomly if they have an anovulatory follicle - can last weeks or longer if action isn't taken. I had one only about 8 weeks ago - she showed like mad but no WAY was she going to stand - she was near dangerous. We didn't bother to scan her again - just picked up a shot of PG. 10 days later she was back in season properly, covered easily, and now in foal. A hot of PG - if your vet will supply - would be the cheapest and easiest way of diagnosing the problem.
 
Equi- thanks for your reply also however this is not normal for the mare she usually cycles every 21 days for only 4 or 5 days not being in season for 14 days then off for 4 then back on again there is not a 21 day break in there
janetGeorge - sorry to sound stupid but what is an anovolatry follicle ? Couldn't see anything on Google about this. Thanks
 
This is one of the best articles I've seen (and Jos knows his stuff!) http://www.equine-reproduction.com/articles/AHF.shtml. it's pretty normal for a persistent anovulatory follicle. They don't know whether they're in or out. And there isn't a 21 day break - they ovulate every 21 days - in season for 5-7 days before - and some will still show a day after ovulating. (And in foal mares will often show if a stallion is nearby. It's a signal - the stallion can read what they're saying via smell!
 
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