marestare mare colicing. Pls can someone get her owners attention

frozzy said:
Our mares that do this after foaling get a shot of prostaglandin and buscopan. It is very distressing to see a mare lying flat out in pain and a foal trying to suckle its mum like that. Even with a difficult birth a mare should be on her feet and first concern her foal. If she is not bothering with her babe then she needs to see a vet. Did anyone watching when she passed the placenta see if they checked it to make sure it was in one piece.? Could be a bit of retained placenta.
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i think this is the case, rather than waiting for the placenta to drop out she did fiddle about with it. all i saw was her putting it straight into the wheelbarrow. she may well have looked at it after but i think she should have waited for the placenta to drop out and not touch it at all while still attatched to the mare.
 
Poor mare and poor foal :( She's trying her best bless her but shes in discomfort and not really being mum of the year just now.

I really don't know why studs do this. It doesn't seem such a great PR job to me. If it was my mare I would probably put somehting on my website/forum not to worry about her, under vet supervision - has been medicated and been advised to leave her alone etc etc or whatever they have been advised. If it was me I'd want to check in on her a bit more personally but maybe they are watching via the webcam.

Edited to say glad to see from posts above that they have let everyone know she is being watched. Thanks for posting that :)
 
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Too~Many~Nags said:
Ive only ever bred one foal and in my case it was the foal who layed down lots, in between each suckle and the mare stood over her keeping watch.
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This was my experience also. So glad my mares birth was quick and easy and was up after foaling within 15 mins, foal suckled straight away. This mare looks very sorry for herself, hope she is just exhausted and nothing too bad going on.
 
didn't see her pass the placenta. The birth was "uncomfotable" to watch and I have had foals before. The owner was pulling with all her weight for quite a while to get the foal out. I was concerned the foal wasn't alive until it moved. There was no waiting for contractions. Hopefully no damage was done and she is just very sore or has retained some placenta.
 
Ive been watching now for over an hour and the foal hasn't laid down once, is this usual ? I would have thought she would need to lay down and rest being so young, or is she uncomfortable/hungry so not resting maybe.
 
Just googled banamine. Seems it is a general painkiller. If it was my mare it would have prostaglandin which will stop the contraction type pains this mare appears to be having. If she had to manually remove the placenta it could have torn.
 
I would hope that she settles down having had a dose of finadyne, however if she doesnt then I would be concerned that there is something else going on as finadyne masks colic signs. I have operated on mares less than 6 hours after foaling where they have had a large colon torsion or ruptured uterus/uterine artery and they start off as being a bit uncomfortable and get worse and the owners thought it was just a bit sore after a hard foaling.
 
It's worth mentioning that all mares, all foals, and all foalings are different.

I have known some foals be born, get up, suckle, then lay down for an hour or two almost immediately. We had one foal who refused to lay down for about 12 hours, despite being so tired it kept nearly falling over.

While the mare does give cause for concern, they are clearly watching her and the foal, have a vet involved, and they know the mare better than we do, as does the vet. I can see they're holding the mare & getting the foal a drink right now. If mare isn't happier soon, I'm sure the vet will be back out.
 
im sorry but that mare is in pain, the vet should be there with her not watching the cam, the owner looks like she could do with help. would make it abit less stressfull for the foal.
 
Honestly guys, I know you are all concerned, (and that's a good thing) but this is a professional stud (who generally have lots of experience with mares & foals) & they seem to have everything under control with regards to this mare's progress. It's not like they are doing nothing. (and it is worth noting that mares & foals need quiet time together anyway)

Fairly sure that she will be consulting with her vet, so there is no need to continue e-mailing and alerting them. Or giving online diagnosis of retained placenta etc etc

Fingers crossed both mare & foal perk up soon.
 
I woulkd be far from happy with a mare that was reacting like that, if she is a maiden them maybe she is upset by the whole experience, but to me it seems more that she is in discomfort/pain. And I fail to see how anyone can effectively administer an enema single handed if the foal is resisting, takes two of us which means it is over quickly and foal doesn't get upset.
I'd be getting that vet there right now.
 
I've emailed once and if the subject is clear - if they don't want to/don't need to read it they can send it straight to the Trash.

As an owner, if someone saw something wrong, or that they considered wrong, with one of mine, I'd rather have a few emails/messages that it may turn out I don't need than none if it turned out I did need them.

I'm an experience professional in my job, doesn't mean that occasionally I don't make a mistake.
 
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