Max the Orphaned Exmoor, the journey begins

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So, some of you will have seen that we had a little orphaned Exmoor filly due to arrive yesterday to hopefully try and foster with Jakki.

Well, first thing I noticed was some teeny little plums, he's definitely a he, not a she. Second thing I noticed was that I don't think he's as old as we were told.

We took the towel from Jakki's foal and rubbed it all over him (Jakki is not great with towels/rugs etc. so didn't leave it on him).

Jakki isn't very confident with people she doesn't know, so I held her, backed up into a corner to keep the foal safe from her back legs in case she kicked. Dan, who she also trusts was on hand and the woman who brought the foal (who liveries with the owner of the wild herd he's from) brought the foal in. Jakki was thrilled. Lots of lovely nickering and nuzzling and things started well. Sadly, the foal has been having a bottle held high for feeding and just wasn't understanding putting his head down to try. We did get him on once and he had a fairly good feed, but the more he failed after that, the more Jakki got upset bless her. He's just become conditioned to putting his head right up. Jakki didn't do anything nasty, but she showed signs of annoyance enough that my vet then came out to try as well. He's a repro expert and a wonderful vet and this kind of thing is his bread and butter at this time of year.
The foal was a little weak and after trying a number of tricks, we all agreed that he'd be bottle fed to let Jakki dry up, so that she can be a "nanny" to him rather than a mum.

When I feed him, I do so with the door between them open and they lay either side of the door to each other so the foal is not completely alone when I am not there. He also has a big teddy coming tomorrow.

You might think it's hard not to just cuddle him all the time as he's so damned cute, but honestly, all he needs is to have his bum rubbed as he drinks, have little scratches, a bit of a play and for you to stand still while he lays down and goes to sleep. He's a very happy little chap....and a proper little monkey already, so he's not getting any mollycoddling off us while he is here and until him and Jakki can be together all the time, he'll be kept in line by me and Dan and if people want to see him, they can, but there will be no letting him lie on anyone, push anyone around, climb on or otherwise be overly friendly with anyone. Today he learned that when the back legs come out on the away from me, no problem. When they come towards me though, my fingers bite just like his mums would, lol.

So...for all of those lovely enough to give us your vibes on the other thread, here you go. It didn't completely work, but it didn't completely fail either and with the vet we have, we can at least say we gave it the best shot.

His owners have been in touch and have named him.
So, meet Max :)

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And then....there's this, lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNEGZR4uqlc

Guesses of his age please. ;)
 
Bless him.
I was involved with feeding an orphan foal for a friend when the mare sadly died.
We were advised to use a hook on manger bucket rather than a bottle, and it was really successful and also meant that he didn't need the 2 hourly feeds after the initial few days of worry. He then was fed 3/4 hourly and managed 6 hours through the night which was still bloody hard work, but less so than every 2 hours.
He is now a strapping 3 year old.
Good luck with him. He's gorgeous.
 
Bless him.
I was involved with feeding an orphan foal for a friend when the mare sadly died.
We were advised to use a hook on manger bucket rather than a bottle, and it was really successful and also meant that he didn't need the 2 hourly feeds after the initial few days of worry. He then was fed 3/4 hourly and managed 6 hours through the night which was still bloody hard work, but less so than every 2 hours.
He is now a strapping 3 year old.
Good luck with him. He's gorgeous.

Yep, got the bucket on order already. I'm not a massive fan of the two hour feeding as it's not very natural for them. When you think in the first week, a new foal can suckle well over ten times in just an hour, I think it's vital that even when they don't have mum, they can feed as naturally as possible. Better for their gut too.
What I'm doing for the time being is allowing two hours between my visits to feed him so that I can sleep and do the other horses, but my visits last anything from 40 minutes to 2 hours, letting him have it little by little, run, play, fart, poo, wee, drink some more, spand lots of "safe time" with Jakki and then I just wait for him to crumple into a heap of sleeping baby :)

Thank you xx
 
Wow, you will be tired but good on you for doing it. He's found the best place to start his life. He's gorgeous!
 
Wow, you will be tired but good on you for doing it. He's found the best place to start his life. He's gorgeous!

Thanks. He is isn't he. Little tyke, he's building up more strength now bless him.

Come on peeps....how old do you think he is? I'm genuinely interested in knowing what you all think. I was he was ten days to two weeks old but vet doesn't think so and neither do I.
 
There are not enough words to describe how gorgeous, charming and dow right lush foals are ❤❤
 
He's still quite wobbly in the vid so I'd say a few days old however he's got a covering of chub over his ribs so I'd think he'd had a day or two with mum before being 'rescued' so maybe 3-5 days old? He is super cute xx
 
He's still quite wobbly in the vid so I'd say a few days old however he's got a covering of chub over his ribs so I'd think he'd had a day or two with mum before being 'rescued' so maybe 3-5 days old? He is super cute xx

That's what I'm thinking. He definitely had a full course of colostrum from mum thankfully. But yes...wibbly wobbly all over the place bless him. :)
 
Aww, bless. Sorry it didn't ''work'' completely, but glad Jakki can still be mum/nanny.
He doesn't look a day over a week old to me.
Looking forward to hearing/seeing more over the coming weeks and months.
Thank you for helping the little chap after your sad loss.
 
He's deightful :) I too would struggle to say he's anything over 4/5 days old. Have you had a chance to look at his umbilical?
 
He is lovely, well done. I have been logging on every spare chance I've had today to see if you had updated :)
 
You might think it's hard not to just cuddle him all the time as he's so damned cute, but honestly, all he needs is to have his bum rubbed as he drinks, have little scratches, a bit of a play and for you to stand still while he lays down and goes to sleep. He's a very happy little chap....and a proper little monkey already, so he's not getting any mollycoddling off us while he is here and until him and Jakki can be together all the time, he'll be kept in line by me and Dan and if people want to see him, they can, but there will be no letting him lie on anyone, push anyone around, climb on or otherwise be overly friendly with anyone. Today he learned that when the back legs come out on the away from me, no problem. When they come towards me though, my fingers bite just like his mums would, lol.

Exactly as it should be!! I have met some disastrous bottle-reared horses and ponies and as for some of the FB videos.. they make me shudder!

Will be good to read about his progress.
 
Exactly as it should be!! I have met some disastrous bottle-reared horses and ponies and as for some of the FB videos.. they make me shudder!

Will be good to read about his progress.

Me too...and all of my non-horsey friends share them with me thinking they're cute, you get stuck in the corner of trying to be nice and rain on their kind thought behind sharing it with you, but also try to gently say why it's oh so very wrong.

Makes me shudder. When it's nodding off time, I keep my hands to myself and drop my face to his and nicker quietly, touching his face gently with mine and letting him do the same to me and it settles him instantly. I can't be a horse, but I can do as close to what they do as possible and we all can. I don't even want to grab him for a cuddle...what right do I have to do that? I much prefer the tenderness of the little quiet "horse talk" body language moments.

I also quite enjoy the "I'll have ya" moments when the legs come out and the subsequent "tail between the legs" return as he knows he's been told, lol
 
Exactly as it should be!! I have met some disastrous bottle-reared horses and ponies and as for some of the FB videos.. they make me shudder!

Will be good to read about his progress.

I own one! She's rising 7 and just under 600kg - what was cute as a foal is absolutely not cute at that size! She was heading for a bullet at 4 until I took a chance on her & still isn't 100% on horse v human behaviour.

GG - your new baby is gorgeous. Very much looking forward to lots of photos.
 
Oh, he's gorgeous. I'd say less than a week old too. Good luck and I hope your mare enjoys being his nanny.
 
He's not mine sadly, although I'd love it if he was. The lady that brought him here liveries with the land owner that owns the herd he came from but they are running on the moors so essentially wild...just owned wild, lol. I don't mind though, I'm glad I get the chance to make him a respectably behaved citizen and it's doing the other people good as they're coming into show season and I have no such commitments. It works both ways Jakki is thrilled he is there and although they can't be together just yet, she was really quite distressed at losing her foal so to see her snap out of that and become interested and "normal" again means the world to me.

I had Dan take a few short video's tonight of how I handle the various situations and start to teach such a young foal the basics of how to be a horse. I thought it could come in handy for other people maybe and I'm sure there will be mishaps, but we all make them and no point glossing over them. He's a super little chap. He started learning about mutual grooming tonight and we had a good little run around and play :)

Dan is learning very quickly.

I basically split my head/face and my hands. Settling after feeding and playing is hands in pockets out of the way and head down to his, nuzzling his head and neck, letting him to the same back to me. It is THE most blissful thing to do so why anyone would rather grab a hold and cuddle over this feeling is beyond me. There is a time for that, but it's not now.
When it's mutual grooming time, It's just one hand being "mums mouth" and letting him figure out how to groom back or ask for me to groom him back. He's picking it up well. Dan asked about telling him off if he nipped and I said no. Most people would, but in my experience, learning to be a horse takes preference. When he goes out with Jakki and Paulo, I want him to be able to groom them back as they will groom him so I did tell Dan he may have to cope with a few nibbles, but as he doesn't have teeth to worry about at the moment, it's hardly an issue. The time to learn about human grooming interaction is a way off in the future yet.

If photobucket plays ball tomorrow, there will be more photo's and videos.
 
I agree it's important to teach them grooming. My foals all automatically groom back (lovely milky smelly clothes 😂) and I think it's great bonding for us also good teaching in what body language is appropriate but I'm sure to stop when they get too eager, or turn a bum and teeth start to come in. Last years foal caught on very quick that pawing got a scratch, so I had to stop the "grooming" and just use brushes instead.
 
I agree it's important to teach them grooming. My foals all automatically groom back (lovely milky smelly clothes ��) and I think it's great bonding for us also good teaching in what body language is appropriate but I'm sure to stop when they get too eager, or turn a bum and teeth start to come in. Last years foal caught on very quick that pawing got a scratch, so I had to stop the "grooming" and just use brushes instead.

Hahaaa, yep. Dan is on such a steep learning curve bless him. He's learning what Max is and isn't allowed to do and how to put the boundaries in place.

I stayed in the stable until 5am as he hadn't had a poo since lunch time. Monitored all night, oiled him and it did the trick perfectly. Called Dan in work and told him Max had pooed and he shouted, "YAY ". Then had to explain to a room full of non horsey colleagues he was happy about a poo ����
 
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