Maybe buying a horse.. how much is he worth?

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EquiGirl1

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...besides him *being worth what I am willing to pay for him*.

Basically a lady at my yard bought a young 4yo 16.1 ISH x TB gelding in the summer with the plan to event him, not long after she had a non riding related accident and hasnt really been doing much with him and I think she might be considering selling him. I've been helping out with him, ride him 3 / 4 times a week, have done some local comps and she pays someone else to school him and compete him once / twice a week. I love him, he is great, so so so easy to do and willing to please. I'm not the most expereinced rider, so its safe to say his developments and progress have been down to the other rider (who is also my instructor) but I really think he is an amazing horse, with heaps of talent, but without that 'quirk' that great competition horses often have and dont think I'm experienced enough to handle.

He has taken to everything, half passes, shoulder in, flying changes, all stuff that we werent planning to ask of him at this age but he is doing so well and seemingly enjoying it.

He has been out 6 times to local unaffiliated dressage doing prelim, competing in classes of up to 20 horses and has yet to place outside of top 3. His sj is still green, he has a huge jump and loved every second of his xc schooling session, and providing he is careful enough sj I think he will make a great eventer.

How much do you think he would be worth in todays market? I know its not a great time of year and he hasnt got any points to his name. He has great confirmation, passed a 5 stage vetting 6 months ago and I believe then she paid £3000- £3500 for him. He is not 5 untill May next year. His sire is Cavalier Two for Joy.

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He sounds lush! £5k, maybe more depending on where you live. He could feasibly go out to BYEH classes next year and do very well, he's nicely bred and has a fair amount of local success to his name.
 
I am sat here thinking hummmm half pass and flying changes at 4? Really? Also to me it sounds like he is in a very managed programme what happens when that ends? You say you are not very experienced so is it fair to learn on this horse?
 
Thanks guys,
I figured between the £4 - £5k mark at the moment and imagine he'll be nearer £5.5 - £6 by summer depending on how his first season out is. We plan to take him to the 4/5yo classes and there is a young horse dressage champs near us as well late spring which we are entering the qualifiers for. Just need to get some more sj practice in this winter, preferably with some wooden poles (havent got the utmost respect for plastic ones!;)).
 
EquiGirl1 said:
Thanks guys,
I figured between the £4 - £5k mark at the moment and imagine he'll be nearer £5.5 - £6 by summer depending on how his first season out is. We plan to take him to the 4/5yo classes and there is a young horse dressage champs near us as well late spring which we are entering the qualifiers for. Just need to get some more sj practice in this winter, preferably with some wooden poles (havent got the utmost respect for plastic ones!;)).
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I think you're spot on with you valuation. If I were you, I'd speak to the owner asap as I'm sure as soon as he's advertised, the owner will get a few enquiries. :)
 
LEC said:
I am sat here thinking hummmm half pass and flying changes at 4? Really? Also to me it sounds like he is in a very managed programme what happens when that ends? You say you are not very experienced so is it fair to learn on this horse?
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I'm not the one doing half passes etc. I dont consider myself experienced enough to ask that of a youngster, so I dont. Half the time I just hack him, I've been working on stuff like, getting him out on his own, which was a big no for him when he first arrive, I've been working on my schooling for my prelims, and have done a clear round on him. The only reason he has done other stuff is just because he can, the girl who schools him said "today I am going to see if we can do shoulder in" and he did, first time, which has kind of been the way he has carried on.

I've had horses my whole life and have competed the past few years up to novice dressage and BE80 on my horse who is about to retire, so wouldnt say I was unexperienced, but I wouldnt feel confident in bringing a young horse on (to a good standard) on my own, hence I have lessons weekly, twice weekly if I can afford it.

He isnt really in any type of programme, I have a lesson once a week, he gets schooled once a week, the rest of the time he hacks and/or plays around in the field. We try to take him out once a fortnight, either to small local comps, or just to various friends yards for a new environment. Some weeks he has 1 day off, last week he had 4 days off. He isnt loopy by nature which is what attracts me to him.
 
EquiGirl1 said:
Thanks guys,
I figured between the £4 - £5k mark at the moment and imagine he'll be nearer £5.5 - £6 by summer depending on how his first season out is. We plan to take him to the 4/5yo classes and there is a young horse dressage champs near us as well late spring which we are entering the qualifiers for.
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If he's a 2008 horse then he'll only be entitled to compete in 5yo classes in 2013, not 4yo ones.
 
A talented, well conformed, nicely mannered, quirk free, quick learner of a horse who you have been lucky enough to know on a day to day basis for several months? Anything you can afford to pay up to £7k, I would say.
 
I think your estimates are probably right OP. What does your instructor think? Somewhere between £5k and £7k if he really is as good as you say, and the competitions he has done had reasonable entrants..
 
I have a lovely rising 4 year old by the same sire and payed £800 delivered for him as a 2.5 year old! He is now backed and has been hacked for 2 months and now on a break till spring, but has lovely paces and a great attitude, nothing phases him, all round lovely person! Can't wait till spring to start him again! I have his breeders no. I think he regularly uses this sire and had a great selection of young stock! Might be worth checking out as would be considerably cheaper!
 
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