Mcjonnas v Kambarbay

Nffr = no foal free return. Normally means if the mare does not get in foal this year then there is no stud fee to pay for that stallion the next year. There are variations on that, some studs would say no live foal or 1st October not in foal but its only the stud fee that would be free and transport costs if you are using fresh or frozen semen and keep if you are using natural cover would not be included.
 
NoltonSeaShell said:
Thanks Bezique, I will look that book up! I'm bound to find it on amazon, or somewhere. I understand there can be heartbreak, a friend didn't even know her tb was in foal, went up the stable one day and found two dead twins. It was incredibly upsetting, but I would obviously know and the vet etc would be involved all the way through. I would just love the experience. Have you bred from Magician? As it would be both of ours first foal, would it be better to go for the same size as her or a bit bigger? I have so many questions!! Haha so if everything goes to plan expect lots of posts :D
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I am considering using Magician GF on one of my mares, its between him, a stallion in Ireland and a stallion in Denmark lol!! Its not my usual breeding direction but sometimes you have to do things for the passion. Finally decision will come down to whether I can warrant following my heart for this particular breeding after i've done the sums for all the other mares I have :)

Usually I breed bays, greys, blacks and chestnuts ;)

My 15.1 TB went to a 16.2 WB for her first foal, since she has been back to the 16.2, to a 16.3 three times, a 14.2 once and is now infoal to a 17.1h. I wouldn't say Magician is too big for a first foal to a 15.2 TB :)
 
Bezique said:
Have you looked at the stallion Magician GF, also cremello, he is bigger than McJonnas
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Magician GF and McJ are both lovely stallions, but please be careful about putting your mare to a larger stallion, especially if she is a maiden. Many foaling problems are caused by large foals from small framed mares. As a rule of thumb we never put a maiden in foal to anything more than a hand taller and the stallion can only have marginally bigger shoulders/bone than the mare (broad heads above the eyes and big shoulders are biggest cuplrits for foals getting stuck on the way out). I know the mare largely determines the size of the foal but the stallion also passes on half the genes and this does have an effect on the foal size. If first foaling goes well then you can always put to a bigger, rangier stallion the next time. :)
 
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