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The food my dog is on, burns penplan egg, brown rice, vegetables and it's going to cost us alot

It's £1.17 a packet and she is on two/three a day.

I can't find a dry food with the same ingredients, well I did but couldn't find what's in it, or a cheaper wet.

I'm probably going to have to just suck up the cost but I would.like to try and find another cheaper food if possible.
 
MotherOfChickens said:
I think druid on here has a veggie dog-might be worth checking their posts.

and the posters above-some dogs become allegic/intolerant to meat protein.
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Fair enough - I accept that - but most "vegetarian" dogs I have met, are fed a meat-free diet because of the beliefs of their owners, not because they have a problem with the food themselves.
 
Can you use fish?
Failing that, what about cooking your own? You can batch cook in a slow cooker and then freeze in jars of 2-3 days worth at a time. Egg, rice and veg would be pretty cheap to do this way, and you could research some nice goodies (powders/superfoods) to add nutrition and still be cheaper.
 
Dogs should have a diet including meat unless there are health reasons. We should never project our own ideals onto them.

If you want a vegetarian pet get a rabbit.
 
Thistle said:
Dogs should have a diet including meat unless there are health reasons. We should never project our own ideals onto them.

If you want a vegetarian pet get a rabbit.
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I have two rabbits thank you may you could ask why I needed a meat free diet rather than get rude.

My dog is allergic to meat, causes her to be very ill, fish is even worse.
She is under a specialist vet hospital.
 
dollyanna said:
Can you use fish?
Failing that, what about cooking your own? You can batch cook in a slow cooker and then freeze in jars of 2-3 days worth at a time. Egg, rice and veg would be pretty cheap to do this way, and you could research some nice goodies (powders/superfoods) to add nutrition and still be cheaper.
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Actually that's not a bad idea.

How would I.cook it in the slow cooker with the egg? Just chuck.it all in?
 
Slightlyconfused said:
I have two rabbits thank you may you could ask why I needed a meat free diet rather than get rude.

My dog is allergic to meat, causes her to be very ill, fish is even worse.
She is under a specialist vet hospital.
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There is a first time for everything - a carnivorous animal deemed allergic to meat......

I don't doubt you in the least Slightlyconfused, out of interest what breed is your dog?
 
Lévrier;13323808 said:
There is a first time for everything - a carnivorous animal deemed allergic to meat......

I don't doubt you in the least Slightlyconfused, out of interest what breed is your dog?
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My lurcher is allergic to all tested meats and white fish and salmon, it does happen.
Op the only food tested for on the York tests that my dog can eat is whole egg, she is now fed purina HA and is doing very well on it.
 
twiggy2 said:
My lurcher is allergic to all tested meats and white fish and salmon, it does happen.
Op the only food tested for on the York tests that my dog can eat is whole egg, she is now fed purina HA and is doing very well on it.
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Wow I would never have thought it - thanks Twiggy2 that is really interesting, I wonder how/why.....
 
Slightlyconfused said:
Actually that's not a bad idea.

How would I.cook it in the slow cooker with the egg? Just chuck.it all in?
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Yeah, just chuck it all in - maybe add the egg at the end, or even just add a raw egg at the time of feeding? You can do a lovely variety of food then, use squashes, sweet potato, potato, all sorts of veg, and do a good variety for him.
 
Lévrier;13323822 said:
Wow I would never have thought it - thanks Twiggy2 that is really interesting, I wonder how/why.....
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Tested foods include rice, potato, various grains, meats and I am not sure what else as I do not have the list with me. She has also proven to be allergic to sweet potato so currently I have her on just the one dry dog food.
She is also allergic to red top and meadow grass, dust mites, storage mites and sensitive to staphylococcus!
Fun times for my little rescue she is just happy she is not allergic to tennis balls and haynets ;-)
 
Slightlyconfused said:
The food my dog is on, burns penplan egg, brown rice, vegetables and it's going to cost us alot

It's £1.17 a packet and she is on two/three a day.

I can't find a dry food with the same ingredients, well I did but couldn't find what's in it, or a cheaper wet.

I'm probably going to have to just suck up the cost but I would.like to try and find another cheaper food if possible.
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our old neighbour used to cook his dogs their meal from potatoes and other things, though his reasons were it was cheaper but then he is a miser
 
Lévrier;13323808 said:
There is a first time for everything - a carnivorous animal deemed allergic to meat......

I don't doubt you in the least Slightlyconfused, out of interest what breed is your dog?
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Trust me I was as suprised as you are now 😀

She is a labxcollie, rescue from a center and 10 weeks, had severe worm problem that took four months to clear up and I think that's what has caused the stomach problems.
 
twiggy2 said:
Tested foods include rice, potato, various grains, meats and I am not sure what else as I do not have the list with me. She has also proven to be allergic to sweet potato so currently I have her on just the one dry dog food.
She is also allergic to red top and meadow grass, dust mites, storage mites and sensitive to staphylococcus!
Fun times for my little rescue she is just happy she is not allergic to tennis balls and haynets ;-)
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We just did an exclusion diet and that's what we came up with as off meat her stomach symptoms disappear (she is still.not totally right but we think.her stomach was masking other things)
What test did you use?
 
Slightlyconfused said:
We just did an exclusion diet and that's what we came up with as off meat her stomach symptoms disappear (she is still.not totally right but we think.her stomach was masking other things)
What test did you use?
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We did the York test as kept showing different allergies as in she would have skin flat ups, the terrible runs, ear problems, and lethargy. She also had a slightly.low body weight, all her symptoms are mild and very much manageable so I have actually been really lucky.
 
I would cook the rice and veggies but not the egg, maybe freeze the rice and veg in meal sized portions - you knew all those Chinese takeaway containers would come in handy one day! - and only add the egg at serving. Can she eat them raw? If not a quick scramble in the microwave.
 
Clodagh said:
I would cook the rice and veggies but not the egg, maybe freeze the rice and veg in meal sized portions - you knew all those Chinese takeaway containers would come in handy one day! - and only add the egg at serving. Can she eat them raw? If not a quick scramble in the microwave.
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I have no idea if she can eat them raw.

How do I know how much egg to give?
If I try feeding it raw do I just mix it in to the food at serving?
 
Slightlyconfused said:
Trust me I was as suprised as you are now 😀

She is a labxcollie, rescue from a center and 10 weeks, had severe worm problem that took four months to clear up and I think that's what has caused the stomach problems.
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Oh bless her, I'm glad she has found you to help her - good luck 😊
 
Op the biggest problem with feeding the way you plan is that unless you do some serious research you will not be feeding a balanced diet.
Short term you are likely to get away with it with no problems (I know I have in the past) but long term you may find it is false economy as the dogs health may suffer, also don't forget to cost in your time and electricity in producing the food, at that point you may find that it does not work out cheaper to do it yourself.
On a true exclusion diet you need to feed exactly the same every day for approx 10 weeks and then add one new protein source at a time for 2-3 weeks before adding another.
Even wormers, dog toothpastes and some medications cannot be used for dogs with meat allergies as they can be flavoured with meat so you do need to be sure what the allergies are with meat.
How long did you try the food exclusion diets for and what meats did you try? being allergic to all meats is extremely rare.
 
Lévrier;13323808 said:
There is a first time for everything - a carnivorous animal deemed allergic to meat......

I don't doubt you in the least Slightlyconfused, out of interest what breed is your dog?
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It's not uncommon I have seen it twice in Labradors
 
ycbm said:
Dogs aren't carnivores, are they ? Aren't they are omnivores - they eat other stuff as well as meat? Cats are carnivores.
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its arguable I think, they are opportunists and also scavenge but does that class them as true omnivores? They would of course eat gut contents naturally-same as cats.
 
twiggy2 said:
Op the biggest problem with feeding the way you plan is that unless you do some serious research you will not be feeding a balanced diet.
Short term you are likely to get away with it with no problems (I know I have in the past) but long term you may find it is false economy as the dogs health may suffer, also don't forget to cost in your time and electricity in producing the food, at that point you may find that it does not work out cheaper to do it yourself.
On a true exclusion diet you need to feed exactly the same every day for approx 10 weeks and then add one new protein source at a time for 2-3 weeks before adding another.
Even wormers, dog toothpastes and some medications cannot be used for dogs with meat allergies as they can be flavoured with meat so you do need to be sure what the allergies are with meat.
How long did you try the food exclusion diets for and what meats did you try? being allergic to all meats is extremely rare.
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We tried chicken, beef, lamb. Duck, Turkey and beef with all the same results, within two/three weeks she was in pain with her stomach, high temp, salivating (looking like she was wanting to be sick) and a few others.
Fish makes her violently sick.
She is on this current diet for another six weeks to see if it's still okay for her but the symptoms above have all but gone with only the occasional groaning lying down.
 
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