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This is awful. But I suppose all those that back each other time and again when anything is bought up will say this was not cruel??? NP? Amymay? and the rest?

I am not a bunny hugger but neither am I that niave to think all in the garden is excellent with some slaughter houses. What some of you need to also realise is that EVERYONE has their own opinion.
 
What do vegetarians/vegans who do not want to support the meat industry feed their dogs and cats though? I asked this of a vegan once who was having a royal go at me on another forum for eating meat and he stated it was acceptable because his dog was a carnivore by nature and dogs were domesticated by humans (no way of fending for themselves in society) so in principle it was acceptable. My point that he chose to have a meat eating carnivore was not accepted :)
 
vixann said:
This thread did affect my decision as I did not realise we only had 2 places in UK (although some ppl seem to think this is common knowledge!) so I obviously didnt drag him all the way down there.
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You need to talk to yorksG then as she's in Yorkshire and is sorted there if you read her reply on your thread;)
 
Haha said:
http://www.farmersguardian.com/home/.../33811.article

This is awful. But I suppose all those that back each other time and again when anything is bought up will say this was not cruel??? NP? Amymay? and the rest?

I am not a bunny hugger but neither am I that niave to think all in the garden is excellent with some slaughter houses. What some of you need to also realise is that EVERYONE has their own opinion.
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What has pig slaughter got to do with Stillmans/Potters on a Wednesday kill day for horses/ponies?

I stand by what i've said/witnessed at Stillmans 100%
 
nativeponies said:
What has pig slaughter got to do with Stillmans/Potters on a Wednesday kill day for horses/ponies?

I stand by what i've said/witnessed at Stillmans 100%
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The point being what you witnessed is not always what happens in the way they are treated. Meaning there is always room for doubt so people need to make their own minds up instead of others always saying well I've been there seen it all. I'm not saying your wrong just you never think that what you've seen or what you think is the be all and end all;)
 
Haha said:
The point being what you witnessed is not always what happens in the way they are treated. Meaning there is always room for doubt so people need to make their own minds up instead of others always saying well I've been there seen it all. I'm not saying your wrong just you never think that what you've seen or what you think is the be all and end all;)
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Then some people need to grow a pair and go see for themselves, don't you think?
 
Haha said:
The point being what you witnessed is not always what happens in the way they are treated. Meaning there is always room for doubt so people need to make their own minds up instead of others always saying well I've been there seen it all. I'm not saying your wrong just you never think that what you've seen or what you think is the be all and end all;)
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Hang on a minute, you are getting your information from the net????

How can your info be any better than seeing it first hand???
 
nativeponies said:
oh good grief....are you really so delicate?...where am i being "aggressive"?..i only asked a question....
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Then some people need to grow a pair and go see for themselves, don't you think?
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Why do you always get aggressive when someone disagrees with you then start attacking?
And before you ask!

are you really so delicate
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why you would ask this? I have no idea. But in answer to your question no not delicate at all but often have wondered why if someone doesn't agree with you especially on this topic that you seem to resort to attack or thats how it comes across.
 
WoopsiiD said:
Hang on a minute, you are getting your information from the net????

How can your info be any better than seeing it first hand???
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Sorry WoopsiiD I have got no info off the net. It is over the last few years reading NP's replies to people. Sorry if your a follower but we all have our own opinions. (well some of us do) Others just follow;)
 
I have not attacked you...nor, AFAIK become "aggressive" in my answer to yourself.

Infact, I actually have answered you with a question..How is asking something being aggressive?

And were you dissagreeing with we?...not sure TBH..I took it as you asking me something..to which i replied by asking you something.

Chill....it will make you a better person..and a tad more understanding ;)
 
Haha said:
http://www.farmersguardian.com/home/.../33811.article

This is awful. But I suppose all those that back each other time and again when anything is bought up will say this was not cruel??? NP? Amymay? and the rest?

I am not a bunny hugger but neither am I that niave to think all in the garden is excellent with some slaughter houses. What some of you need to also realise is that EVERYONE has their own opinion.
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If you've taken the time to read any posts made by myself, NP or the rest as you put it - you will know that we would be horrified at treatment like that of any animal.

What a terribly odd thing for you to have suggested that we would not consider those accusations cruel............:confused:
 
I don't think I have read anyone at all defending animals of any type being slaughtered inhumanely. As far as I have read this thread is just defending the way the two authorised UK horse slaughterhouses treat horses and also defending the right of people to choose it as a humane and possibly economical way of putting down a horse. NP has seen it with her own eyes and many of us have seen the Animal Aid propaganda video which show the horses being handled competently and dispatched quickly and efficiently. There are a load of horror stories on the web of farm animals being abused at the point of slaughter, which I think anyone would find despicable and I source my meat from a local farm shop so I know it has had a good life. To say all slaughter is wrong based on internet reports is naive in the extreme.
 
I understand you don't want any shi**y comments, but as it's a public forum, then you have to expect a PUBLIC response.

Considering you are all supposed to be horse lovers I am amazed at the amount of people who when their horses seem to have run out of purpose, see this as a way of making a couple of hundered quid. I for one could NEVER send my horse to the meat man, even if I were desperate for cash. I don't disagree with a horse being pts for medical reasons and then it's upto the owner whether they want to sell the body for cash or have it cremated. But to kill a horse/pony simply because it has no puporse at the time is just obscene.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

PS - Let's all ride cows instead :)
 
LauraPD said:
I understand you don't want any shi**y comments, but as it's a public forum, then you have to expect a PUBLIC response.

Considering you are all supposed to be horse lovers I am amazed at the amount of people who when their horses seem to have run out of purpose, see this as a way of making a couple of hundered quid. I for one could NEVER send my horse to the meat man, even if I were desperate for cash. I don't disagree with a horse being pts for medical reasons and then it's upto the owner whether they want to sell the body for cash or have it cremated. But to kill a horse/pony simply because it has no puporse at the time is just obscene.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

PS - Let's all ride cows instead :)
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Actually Laura, I think you'll find - if you read the whole post - that many people recognise the importance of abottoirs but have expressed the view that they wouldn't send their own horse(s) there.
 
LauraPD said:
I understand you don't want any shi**y comments, but as it's a public forum, then you have to expect a PUBLIC response.

Considering you are all supposed to be horse lovers I am amazed at the amount of people who when their horses seem to have run out of purpose, see this as a way of making a couple of hundered quid. I for one could NEVER send my horse to the meat man, even if I were desperate for cash. I don't disagree with a horse being pts for medical reasons and then it's upto the owner whether they want to sell the body for cash or have it cremated. But to kill a horse/pony simply because it has no puporse at the time is just obscene.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

PS - Let's all ride cows instead :)
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I was just wondering, do yo feel so strongly about the slaughter of any other animals? Not necessarily a cow or a sheep, but for example a dairy bull calf? After all, it only dies so you can have a pint of milk...
 
martlin said:
I was just wondering, do yo feel so strongly about the slaughter of any other animals? Not necessarily a cow or a sheep, but for example a dairy bull calf? After all, it only dies so you can have a pint of milk...
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Martlin that is unfair - it dies so you can have LOADS of pints of milk!
 
and after her contribution in filling swimming pools, she is completely burned out at the age of 5 maybe 6 and ends up at McDonalds, gracing a bun that has never seen grain and a bit of lettuce that rabbits would shun. What a sad bloody existence!
 
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