Met an interesting labrador x poodle today

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Met a lady with a big black dog which I thought at first was a curly coat retriever with a really pointy face, turns out it was F2 labradoodle. I looked nothing like any other labradoodle I've ever seen before, and despite coming from a 'breeder', it has hip problems AND eye problems. She was saying that it doesn't resemble any of it's brothers and sisters in size, type or coat..... an excellent example of not knowing what you might get with these designer crosses!! Am tempted to ask for a picture so I can demonstrate to other wannabe doodle owners that you might not get what you expect!
 
Well you are very much singing from the same hymn sheet as the rest of us, it is very much one of my top pet hates so called designer dogs.

It definately goes to show that not all cross breeds are as healthy as their health tested pedigree cousins.
 
My OH's SIL is getting a Labradoodle (:rolleyes:) shortly- this is also a 2nd generation as in both its parents are labradoodles (makes it a pedigree dontcha know- dear lord give me strength :rolleyes:). It is coming to them at 9 weeks old- already neutered (OMFG really!!!!!!!!!! :eek:) and will only need 30 mins exercise per day (becasue you can tell that when a pup is 6 ish weeks old..... :mad:)

How long before the questions start........
 
Early neutering is common amongst labradoodles to 'protect the breeding line' according to my ex BIL&SIL who spent £1800 on. Labradoodles dog who arrived already neutered at 8 weeks. At first I thought they were mistaken as I never believed a vet would do it so young but sure enough he had already been done after being trailed over 2hrs away to the only vets crazy enough to agree to it. Madness....
 
I understand in bitches too early neutering can cause incontinence. In Australia some people had them done very young and they seemed OK but alwyas a bit puppyish I felt. What problems will a male have if done so young? It must effect development.
Theres 2 labradoodles up the road here, I must say they are lovely dogs and quite similar looking but then I saw another sibling and it was like chalk and cheese.
 
This is my Labradoodle Stig. He is now 2 1/2
I couldn't give a monkeys if he is pedigree or not. I got him at 9 weeks old.
He is a massive, black, hairy, gentle mess and we love him (and our Springer Toby). He is also very clever.
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p.s - he was neutered at 6 months
 
Ahhh, he is so sweet, I love them all shaggy... the one I saw today had no curls on it's face and a really short tight curl over the body, didn't need to be clipped at all. Love the name Stig too!!
 
I have a labrador x poodle, and he is just that. There is nothing designer about him other than the designs his dad, a chocolate standard poodle, had on his mum, the local gamekeepers lab, when he nipped down the road for a visit one morning! The result three lovely black "labradoodles" that needed a home just as we were looking for another dog after loosing our giant schnauzer at nearly 16 years old. We had wanted to try to home a rescue and had been looking, but my daughter really wanted a puppy as she couldn't remember what it was like having one. Luka fitted the bill as he was obviously unplanned and needed homing and he turned up at the right time. I said that our next dog would turn up and 'find us' and he did. No he hasn't had his hips scored or his eyes tested but then neither would any other x bred dog that we might have had. He is the most delightful dog, his temperament is superb and he is fit and healthy. Incidently it is a complete myth that they don't shed - he sheds for England.
 
Labradoodles in my experience either shed as much as a lab but with more hair (wouldn't have believed it until I saw it) or don't shed, but smell as a result. Those I know seem nice enough, but definitely prefer my normal, pedigree working bred lab, despite him being a dreadful sneak thief (never yet caught in the act...)
 
Stig does not shed his coat at all. We have to get him clipped 3 times a year because the coat never stops growing and he resembles a yeti x yak x woolly mammoth.:D
He does not smell bad...tbh my Springer can smell a lot worse!:rolleyes:
He is also the nicest natured, sweetest dog.
:D
 
the way i understand it, and i am happy to be corrected, is that in the f1 cross, the lab may pass on a single gene for poor hips and the poodle a single gene for poor eyes. So each pup may only carry one gene for each condition and therefor not display the fault (although that is really simplified, it is more complex than that). When you breed two labradoodles, the pups may inherit that one gene for poor hips from each parent, therefore giving it two genes and likely to display the characteristic. Hope that males sense!
 
F1 usually come out with coats between the two parent breeds. Not reliable and still a pointless cross.

F2 can have anything from lab length with tight curls to poodle length straight and with or without lab undercoat. I groom one that has both coats - a full poodle coat and a lab's undercoat. He can mat solid after one rain shower.
 
Bossdog said:
the way i understand it, and i am happy to be corrected, is that in the f1 cross, the lab may pass on a single gene for poor hips and the poodle a single gene for poor eyes. So each pup may only carry one gene for each condition and therefor not display the fault (although that is really simplified, it is more complex than that). When you breed two labradoodles, the pups may inherit that one gene for poor hips from each parent, therefore giving it two genes and likely to display the characteristic. Hope that males sense!
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PRA in poodles & labs is the same. HD is the same too.
Poodles can get SA and both breeds can get ED and Epilepsy.
 
For the reason said above. there is really interesting informaton here on it if anyone is interested.
http://www.family-pets.com/genetics.html

A quote from the link:
the second generation is likely to be more variable and have less hybrid vigour than the F1 so breeding F1 to F1 is unwise unless the breeder is trying to create a new breed and doesn't mind breeding a lot of funny looking , and possibly unsatisfactory, dogs on the way
 
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I was eavesdropping (:o) on a conversation between 2 people yesterday , one of whom had what looked to me like a large labradoodle (standard poodle size). The non owner said , "Wow I didn't think he would grow that big", to which the reply was "No, he's far bigger than we thought he would be, and much hairier too and he's only 9 months old". She obviously adored the dog but I did wonder if there were any litter mates around who had also grown "bigger and hairier" and were possibly no longer wanted.:(
 
A friend of a girl at work has just got a Labradoodle puppy and is convinced that because they can trace parentage back 3 generations it is a pedigree dog! Hmm - good luck with the Kennel Club paperwork for that one then love!!
We've always had pedigree dogs even though we've never shown or bred them, mainly because to a certain extent you can plan for what you're getting (size, genetic health issues etc), and if people want to get a mongrel that's their choice I've known some wonderful mongrels.... but the price of these designer mongrels is simply ridiculous imo!
 
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