AmyMay
Situation normal
Possibly because they aren't able to until tonight.........
mild lameness/collapsed heels?/doesn't want to move *pics* help!
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Possibly because they aren't able to until tonight.........
Oberon
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P3 rotation, navicular....these are all diagnosis' to describe an unhealthy hoof.
You can the fronts are clearly see flaring, disconnected wall, under-run heels (horse basically walking on tip toes), prolapsed digital cushions, soles flat.
The backs are slightly more healthy than the fronts - what does that tell you?
The hooves need a break from shoes.
The flaring and disconnection is made worse by an over long wall and the horse bearing all it's weight on them.
The under-run heels isn't this particular farrier's fault totally. There is just not enough structure or material supporting him at the back. The long term lack of frog pressure and ground stimulation has caused this - and the horse is trying desperately to let the frog find the ground - so much so he's prolapsed his digital cushions and ruined the structure of his hoof capsule.
The back of the hoof needs to be allowed to gain strength - and traditional or even remedial shoes just don't do that well enough. If they did I would be the first to recommend them
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Having said that, the horse will need nutritional support, possible ulcer treatment, boots and pads and a decent body worker to help him in the event of shoe removal - it's going to be a rehab job and the OP needs to be committed to it.
Having said all that - they certainly aren't the worst hooves I've seen on here
The other option is to try 'the magic' heart bars...but 'popping a cushion' under the back of the hoof isn't going to give it strength and structure alone.
You can the fronts are clearly see flaring, disconnected wall, under-run heels (horse basically walking on tip toes), prolapsed digital cushions, soles flat.
The backs are slightly more healthy than the fronts - what does that tell you?
The hooves need a break from shoes.
The flaring and disconnection is made worse by an over long wall and the horse bearing all it's weight on them.
The under-run heels isn't this particular farrier's fault totally. There is just not enough structure or material supporting him at the back. The long term lack of frog pressure and ground stimulation has caused this - and the horse is trying desperately to let the frog find the ground - so much so he's prolapsed his digital cushions and ruined the structure of his hoof capsule.
The back of the hoof needs to be allowed to gain strength - and traditional or even remedial shoes just don't do that well enough. If they did I would be the first to recommend them
.Having said that, the horse will need nutritional support, possible ulcer treatment, boots and pads and a decent body worker to help him in the event of shoe removal - it's going to be a rehab job and the OP needs to be committed to it.
Having said all that - they certainly aren't the worst hooves I've seen on here
The other option is to try 'the magic' heart bars...but 'popping a cushion' under the back of the hoof isn't going to give it strength and structure alone.
Ladylina83
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As was I - small circle lameness was the first sign in my girl who was diagnosed with the above and also displayed the same signs as your horse OP although her feet looked nothing like the above which are pretty shocking TBH.
It is worth checking out with x rays which will cost about £100 and your vet will want to see much more heel support with shoes. I imagine your farrier turns in the shoes at the back to stop her stepping on them and pulling them off but its not helping.
I would stop riding her for now as she is clearly uncomfortable
Carefreegirl
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Thanks for reply wagtail, certainly interesting.
My previous horse had similar shaped feet by time bad farrier had dome his worst ! Horse was retired due to Navicular. When I took him to the guy who trained my then farrier he was stunned into silence other than saying my horse was 6 months away from being lame for life.
I can't repeat what he said to the farrier - it would make a hardened criminal blush !
My previous horse had similar shaped feet by time bad farrier had dome his worst ! Horse was retired due to Navicular. When I took him to the guy who trained my then farrier he was stunned into silence other than saying my horse was 6 months away from being lame for life.
I can't repeat what he said to the farrier - it would make a hardened criminal blush !
Tinsel Town
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I dont actually know whats wrong with your horses feet, but just thought I'd add that we had an ex racer come to the yard after she was just left in the field after her 'career' and her feet were horrendous, but sloped like your horses are, they were wide and dished out, severly sloped. I've never seen feet like it 
took some remedial farriery to sort her out. shes not been lame luckily
took some remedial farriery to sort her out. shes not been lame luckily 
milesjess
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OP you will get some spot on advice on here, so well done for asking.
Obvious there is a serious issue going on with your horse's feet. Agree with others, get a vet out, shoes off, new farrier (?) and with their help get a routine/ diet to help your horse.
With the right guidance and help you will be amazed what going barefoot can do.
Obvious there is a serious issue going on with your horse's feet. Agree with others, get a vet out, shoes off, new farrier (?) and with their help get a routine/ diet to help your horse.
With the right guidance and help you will be amazed what going barefoot can do.
fatpiggy
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If your current farrier can't see that the shoes are not supporting the heels whatsoever, I'd find a different one, preferably a remedial one.