Mini rant (UNOFFICIAL DEALERS!)

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eahotson

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Want to sell my horseand buy another. Told by other liveries that dealers (all) are the spawn of the devil.Then the one that is the most adamant about it all and has done her best to put me off one I might be interested in, has now started to try and deal! i.e I have a friend who might be intersted in yours and another friend who has one that might be suitable for you. When I asked a few questions about my prospective new one she didn't seem to know much about it and when I mentioned vet/instructor looked distinctly disgruntled! Spawn of the devil dealer is more than happy with the idea of vet/instructor. Fully open he says!
 
not all dealers are bad!
I have sold a few in my time - 4 of them were brought by people on my yard and they still have them!
I wouldnt class myself as a dealer though - i buy a nice unbroken project and sell on when they are ready to or are out competing.
This means i sell one horse a year as i like to compete them myself for a bit.

I have brought from dealers myself - as long as you go with your eyes open, dont follow your heart and get it vetted you have covered yourself as much as possible - if buying from a dealer i would always recommend taking bloods.
 
I have nothing against upfront dealers although for sure some are better than others.I intend taking instructor plus paying for the full vetting. NO, its the undeclared ones that I don't like. We have a lady on our yard who has bought a youngster to bring on and sell. She is quite open about this and I don't think there is anything wrong with that either!
 
No difference between a dealer and private seller if you ask me, eyes wide open, have two viewings, get it vetted and always take a expert for their second opnion.

Good horses can end up at dealers yards just as much as a bad horse can end up in private home...and vice versa.

Dealers can also get their pants pulled down and srewed over by private sellers and buyers too.

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Well I've never done that to a dealer
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Not all dealers are bad! we had a dealer who provides the RS with a lot of there horses. They have got some amazing horses from her. Including an £800 pony who has turned out to be an absulutely incredible SJer, 3ft9 easily and only 13.2hh. Just needed a bit of TLC
 
She sounds simply like someone giving you information on a horse for sale. I'm not sure I understand what the problem is........ Lots of horses are sold via word of mouth.
 
i'm a "spawn of the devil" type of dealer..

anyone can check any of the animals i sell...and vets are most welcome.

i am of the mind that if vets/instructors AREN'T welcome, then there is something to hide.

this is where the purchaser has to take responsibilty and walk away...no matter how much of a "bargain" you are turning down

Remember, you can only spend your money once!!
 
I would not let them put you off. I bought a few of my horses from a dealer in merseyside, dont know if its the same but they were fab they let me pay in instalments while taking the horse to my own yard and when the 1st horse got angleberrys 5 months later and had to go in to have them surgically removed the dealer told me to keep the money I owed them for the horse and use it towards my bill. They also take horses back no questions asked. Good dealers are very far and few between but there are good ones.
 
Well, Ive bought from private sellers and dealers alike....actually I found the one that was most happy to sell me a demented evil git of a pony from hell for my novice son was yes you guessed it....a private seller....

My horse of a lifetime was bought from a dealer with a crap rep. but was fine with me - no problems.

I've sold privately - very stressful but was honest, found pony a brill home for full asking price and they are very happy with her...

I also sold aforementioned git of a pony to a dealer....couldnt face passing it on to another unsuspecting family but dealer was made fully aware of her temperament and TBH I took the pittance offered cos I wanted rid....

I think, as has been mentioned....eyes open, buyer beware no matter who you buy from....
 
I sold my 13.2 pony through the local pub (well my sister who worked behind the bar did anyway - I was a bit young at the time!) and I don't think he was ever advertised after I had him as he was always sold on through word of mouth? Does that count as dealing?

He was (maybe still is?!) a fab pony - with new owner doing tetrathlon he didn't get that he had to open the gates and jumped them instead - fab!
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Defo buyer beware. Once they have your money - private or dealer - it can be a real nightmare to get it back and going down the court route is expensive and no guarantee, been going down this route myself for the past 10 months and still not got a court date!! Got a crippled horse and dealer changed solicitors twice and now not answering any letters yet again! Check, check and double check everything before parting with ANY cash! There are some good people out there and if you are upfront with them they will be with you - hopefully!
 
Stop stressing about where you hear about the horse and who's selling it. You are buying the horse, not the seller. YOU CAN'T TRUST ANYONE! But you have to buy a horse somewhere. Judge each horse on its merits and take everything anyone says to you with a pinch of salt. If, for example, they say it loads, ask to see for yourself if this is an important point to you. If they have nothing to hide and want to to make the sale, they won't have a problem. Its up to you to try out the horse and make your mind up, just be polite and reasonable with whoever's selling whilst remembering you have no way of really knowing if what comes out of their mouths is genuine.
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I bought both horses from dealers. FIrst one screwed me with a one with lots of problems (lovely horse thou), and second came through recommendation, cant fault him - vet and instructor allowed and other people to ride.

Was going to swap him when i had a wobble not long after i bought him (was back pain causing bad behaviour, not just naughty, which was discovered in the end). His wife is a BHS instructor and if i have any probs i can call for advice anytime.
 
I agree - I wouldn't trust anyone's word about a horse or anything else for that matter. People will lie their heads off in order to obtain your money. There was a horse I knew up for sale, advertised as a schoolmaster (stiff as a board and not terribly well schooled), has seen hounds (sometime in his foalhood when they went past the field I think), no vices - so they took down the weaving grill every time a viewer came to see him! And they were nice middle-class people who really didn't need the money!
 
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