Minxy the little fallabella needs our help

henryhorn said:
I'm sorry Wagtail but no, if the animal is suffering then it should not be left to her to decide.
Look at what she says in the vid clip.
It has already in 10 weeks had pneumonia twice.
It's neck is deformed.
it's teeth are growing backwards and likely to block it's airway.
It's backlegs are severely twisted, she claimed even the bones.
It can't stand unaided without the splints.
We've had foals born this year who have wobbly legs like that (well not as bad). On vet advice they have had restricted exercise, the mares have not had hard feed in the hope they don't make the foals grow too fast and within 4 weeks there has been sufficient improvement for them to go out as normal. This pony in 10 weeks is still unable to walk without support. He isn't going to get better without several ops, and is still being treated like a pet poodle not a foal.
As for not knowing if it's suffering you can't ignore the fact she and her partner have been in the news for dealing heroin from the address, would she be able to realise what suffering was if she is still taking the stuff?
Do you honestly feel it's ok to drag a 10 week old foal round shopping centres and car boot sales flogging raffle tickets to people who feel sorry for it?
I don't need to see it in real life, I watched the video and can understand exactly what it's veterinary problems are. Resonsible breeders euthanise foals like this, it's the kindest thing to do. And if the owner won't do it then the authorities like WHW should talk to her until she does.
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Spot on. Good post.


BTW, can't the OP change the title of the thread ?
 
ok read alot at lunch but not read further posts as looking at the photos and reading i have in my own mind what is right. There comes a time when we have to take responsibility and say ok enough is enough. Quality of life? doubtful. Living life as a horse/pony? doubtful. Im sorry it is not about giving up but saying ok wee mite its time to say goodbye. Reading the problems this wee one as had in first 10 weeks it is time to say goodbye and a caring owner would do that - but mmmmmmm i wonder why they are fighting to the extreme to keep the mite alive - and given my mare is going blind at age 13 I know my time is coing soon - the day her quality of life starts to go I will stand proud by her side - please please let the little one go and gallop with the stars and be at peace from all that it faces. but only my opioion guys xxx
 
JosieB said:
I am all for giving animals a chance if there is a decent possibility they will go on to lead a happy and pain free life. Seeing the pics of this little foal without the splints was disturbing to say the least. It faces months and months of operations and will suffer for the whole of its sad little life. Money spinner for a skag baron... simples.
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I agree with this. I dont agree with putting animals to sleep unless they really need to be. I just dont see how this horse can have a good life ahead of it, its not worth putting it through so much pain IMO. FB page says:

"due to the adverse reactions to our appeal please do not send any more donations the monies previously collected will go towards transportation to the consultation scheduled this week to decide minx's fate by people who are qualified to make the correct moral and ethical decisions for the long term thankyou"

So... I guess a "decision" may be made this week?? I think if this little pony wasn't a possible record breaker, the owner would not have dragged this out.
 
MurphysMinder said:
Can I suggest everyone who has a view on this posts on the other thread posted by baked bean. http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=469295

Otherwise this thread is going to get listed in Horse and Hound as the most popular and the title would suggest that everyone on here wants to help i.e. donate for Minxy, rather than how the majority of us really feel. And yes, I know I have just added another post by typing this. :o
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^^^ This please!! The title of this thread is totally giving the wrong impression, can we keep Ms Bean's thread at the top and continue conversations over there pretty please??
 
Spyda said:
Yes! but she's asking 'strangers' to pay for it - so it DOES become their business to judge doesn't it.

And £6k?? :eek: It's simply not worth it for one disabled foal. Sorry, I really feel for the little mite and it's tragic, but sometimes it's fairer to just PTS in a kind and loving way.

Obviously if the owner/breeder had unlimited personal funds and wished to fund her foal's treatment herself then that would be entirely her decision and I'd wish her well. But to try and raise £6k in this instance from donations, when there are so many more needy horses out there who'd benefit from such an enormous amount, just seems crazy to me.
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I sort of disagree with this, I don't have a problem with the money she is looking for, I would probably donate myself under different circumstances. I would spend whatever it took to keep one of mine alive BUT depending on the prognosis and I would do whatever I had to get the money. I have read the posts by people who know what they are talking about regarding the outlook for the pony and that is my problem. I cannot imagine for one second making one of mine suffer the immense pain this baby is going through, the thought of deliberately breaking it's back legs to straighten them, not to mention it's breathing difficulties, constant chest infections etc, etc, etc.............
 
aj18 said:
i only say about the miniatures because someone made a comment mentioning basically they shouldn't be bred anymore because they are just ornaments, but why does that mean they don't deserve to be bred? it seems like some people are just very snobbish about horses that arent competition winners.
and im not sure if you were being sarcastic about the last part of your comment but i was just saying this animal deserves more than 'just kill it' style comments[/QUOTE


This pony should be put to sleeep asap, as he is clearly suffering. Alot of minis are (like the ones near my house) left to breed with no thought given to the future of the ponies, they are poor quality ponies, two have died in as many years because the colt is now old enough to breed with his dam! They have no water, the owners couldnt care less, the locals feed and water them. No ones saying minis shouldnt be bred but they shouldnt be treated like this. This pny on facebook sounds similar to the ones near my house, ponies like these should not be used for breeding.
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penhwnllys_stardust said:
Yes it's great this thread is still here and hasn't turned nasty. the title sort of works both ways too I suppose. :)
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Yes and the title could be changed to........ 'needs our help to end the suffering' but no doubt it would be pulled if I did that so I won't.
I hope the ones that usually buy H&H off the shelf don't buy it if they run with the story of wanting to save the poor blighter.
 
not sure f i can change the title now, :-/ but at the end of the day she does need our help, she needs our help to put an end to the misery and suffering she's gone through and she will continue to go through if the op goes ahead.

This whole thing is herendous, havent caught up on any news regarding poor minxy for a few days does anyone know whats happening..
I wish people would leave well alone and stop interfereing with things that just arnt natural !!!!
 
UPDATE ON MINXY
Sorry to keep everyone waiting but we are just waiting on a couple of results, sorry we have'nt put anything up on minxy page but someone has reported minxy page so we are not allowed to enter his f/book page for a few days, Well i would love to tell everyone wot is going to happen to minxy now but we are not 100% sure ourselfs yet......!!! Thank you to everyone that is worried for minxy and i will let you no wot is going to happen as soon as we all no. Apart from that mini minxy is amazing and doing very well, And he is still as cheeky as ever...lol!!! well off to see to him now talk to you all soon Meny thanks again joanne xxxxx

From his Facebook account.
 
im just crying - im facing making the decision on my loved beautiful mare and facing it strong(ok maybe tears) but she braggs and boasts ffs get really call vet and do it - ******ing do it ok - my mare will say night night to early rather than to late - get a BLOODY grip ok and be a loving owner * sits crumples and cries i so so dont want to say good bye to my mare but its coming - why? i love her nothing more but this is obcene(sp) - please let the little mite find peace and let it gallop amongst stars please x my tears do not stop for my girl - have you shed tears for the little un - have you??????
 
sorry my last post was typed in emotion im sorry - but i beg the owner please please think stop consider the life the little one willl have - i have for my mare hence why im sobbing - please please stop think and then consider would you like to be where youre little un is - would you?
 
how sad that you find the need to keep picking up on her spelling, you don't bother with anyone else, thought this was ment for grown ups not children. guess you were a bully at school and still a bully now
 
yep your're a child, isn't about time you grew up. well hopefully horse and Hound will remove this thread just like the other one as i posted on it that they should be ashamed of themselves for allowing the thread to continue. None of you have met Minxy so you should not be commenting on what is best for him nor do you have the right to tell people not to donate to this cause. It's very sad the lenghts that some of you have gone too
 
whats this don't like it when someone stands up to all of your bullying. Don't you think that it's time to give up, there is more people that want to help Minxy than ever and thats because of the way you all have gone about it
 
I don't think a load of bunny huggers from the US constitutes overwhelming support. I cannot see that any vet would put the pony through traumatic surgery, when the outcome is going to be negative due to the many other ailments that will impinge on his wellbeing. If the owner of this pony is so blinkered to acknowledge that he is suffering, then they should not be allowed to have ownership of any animal in my mind. I sincerely hope that the powers that be, the RSPCA, and the RCVS see to it that this poor pony does not suffer a short life of being paraded around cheap car boot sales and village fetes.
 
lhotse said:
I don't think a load of bunny huggers from the US constitutes overwhelming support. I cannot see that any vet would put the pony through traumatic surgery, when the outcome is going to be negative due to the many other ailments that will impinge on his wellbeing. If the owner of this pony is so blinkered to acknowledge that he is suffering, then they should not be allowed to have ownership of any animal in my mind. I sincerely hope that the powers that be, the RSPCA, and the RCVS see to it that this poor pony does not suffer a short life of being paraded around cheap car boot sales and village fetes.
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well said.
 
farley101 said:
whats this don't like it when someone stands up to all of your bullying. Don't you think that it's time to give up, there is more people that want to help Minxy than ever and thats because of the way you all have gone about it
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It's not bullying. We simply cannot understand why you want to keep your pony suffering. He has and will have no quality of life. You keep harping on about how much you love him, so do the right thing.
 
His owner believes when he is fully grown and his splints have been removed he could break the world record for the smallest pony – beating the current holder who stands just 17.5 inches tall
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Please have a whip round for us so we can have a picture on the web and in a records book for the smallest, and probably unhappiest and pain wracked pony.....

Nature has told you something important here. Do the right thing, and stop milking it.

It's just not fair to keep a foal like that going.
 
farley101 said:
yep your're a child, isn't about time you grew up. well hopefully horse and Hound will remove this thread just like the other one as i posted on it that they should be ashamed of themselves for allowing the thread to continue. None of you have met Minxy so you should not be commenting on what is best for him nor do you have the right to tell people not to donate to this cause. It's very sad the lenghts that some of you have gone too
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I was going to stay out of this thread, because to be honest I find the prolonging of this pony's life quite distressing and I'd already said my piece on the other thread which was sadly removed.

However, on the other thread it was commented by yourself that everyone who was calling for Minxy to be pts were the ones who should be ashamed, and I have to take issue with that, although I am repeating myself, the only way I'd feel ashamed would be to keep quiet about the wrongs that I see ocurring in keeping this poor pony in the state he is.

I most certainly do not need to see him in real life to realise that his existence is something I wouldn't wish on any pony, a pony that is deformed, can't stand or breathe properly, is separated from mum (and his owner is NOT his 'mummy'.) The pictures and videos were sickening enough to watch thankyou.

We don't have the right to tell those too naive or ignorant to donate to his cause no, that is up to the individual, but there are far more worthy causes and I wonder what most of those donators would feel if they were to realise that they were contributing to prolonging suffering?

He isn't cheeky, he is deformed and can never lead a comfortable normal life.

As for bullying, well to be honest if I were the owner I'd be questioning why so many people were so up in arms about this. Could it be that they actually have a point and are frustrated at the apparent lack of compassion and awareness of Minxy's situation shown by the owner?

Instead of getting up in arms about bullying claims, perhaps the owners energy would be better directed at thinking about what her pony is going through.

I'm not one for saying "just kill it" as you term it, I care deeply about welfare and sometimes, as in this case, it just isn't fair or right to prolong life.

If the owner truly loves this pony and and is not keeping him for her own emotional needs, I'm sure she will do the right thing as soon as possible and let Minxy pass over peacefully without the awful future of painful surgery and shortenend lifespan looming ahead of him.

As I said before I think the owner will probably point the finger at all those who have called for him to be pts and call us bullying pony murderers, but really she needs to look at her own motives for keeping him here. Better to let him go and if you need that something to love in your life then there are many ponies who are truly in dire need of being helped that would benefit from someone to care for them; although certainly not in a dog bed or house!

Instead of taking personal offence at people's passsion, think about Minxy, he is the one who truly matters in all this, strong opinions online and petty squabbling are nothing in comparison to what he is going through and going to have to go through in future if the right thing isn't done.

It IS the hardest decision any responsible horse owner has to make, but running away from it and pretending that everything is alright when it isn't will only make things worse and nowadays euthanasia is not as traumatic as it used to be for the owner and I'm sure there'd be overwhelming support for you from here and elsewhere by making that decision.
 
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