mis-sold????

rhino said:
Sarcoids can vary enormously in structure and appearance. There are several different types, so it is not *that* unlikely that the owner would not have realised :/

Have a look here, lots of good information
http://www.liv.ac.uk/sarcoids/
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WOW! Thank you for that link! What a fascinating article! I knew nothing about them before (save that my friend's grey has one under his tail) - I feel much more informed now!!
 
With respect, most of the mis sold people on here have three things in common-
1. Not much experience.
2. Nobody experienced with them when they view it.
3. No vetting.
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I wouldn't put Camrosa on anything, let alone a sarcoid.

OP has the mark recently started to become raw - I'm wondering if you have a different saddle or something that may have rubbed it.

FWIW I bought a horse with sarcoids four years ago that hasn't had a single vet treatment for them nor any problems...
 
MrsHutt said:
WOW! Thank you for that link! What a fascinating article! I knew nothing about them before (save that my friend's grey has one under his tail) - I feel much more informed now!!
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They used to do a little book/booklet thing too which I found really useful when my ginger boy had his first sarcoid :)

It is important to reiterate that the current veterinary advice is not to apply anything to the sarcoid unless there is a proper diagnosis. There are pics on the site showing what can happen

The lesion progressed dramatically following the application of a “curative” topical application commonly advertised in the lay horse press.
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I can hazard a guess at what that would have been :rolleyes:
 
He is still the horse you fell in love with. The seller may or may not not have mis-sold him. If the vet is not worried about them and he does not need treatment its best just to put it down to experience and get on with enjoying him. He might be an absolute gem but you'll only find that out by forgetting what happened, giving him a chance, spending time with him and having fun with him.
 
Out off interest why is everybody so against camrosa? Iv never used it myself but know people who thinks it's fab. What's in it than?
Sorry not hyjacking just interested. :)
 
It contains heavy metals.
That could make it toxic. And in some cases it encourages a sarcoid to grow.
Best place for it is in the bin IMO.
 
thatsmygirl said:
Out off interest why is everybody so against camrosa? Iv never used it myself but know people who thinks it's fab. What's in it than?
Sorry not hyjacking just interested. :)
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It's a cream which is supposed to aid healing ie by helping wounds and rubs grow healthy cells in sarcoids you have abnormal cells growing the last thing you want it to do is produce more cells therefore you need to be very careful what you put on a sarcoid .
 
They used to claim it contained 'no harmful chemicals' and tried to market it as a 'natural product'

Well yes, lead, lithium, uranium and nickel are all natural, I suppose. Nevertheless, they were made to remove the 'no harmful chemical' warning.
(ASA ruling 39338 if anyone wants to check it out)

They used to advise it as a treatment for sarcoids. They have now had to withdraw this advice (though as it is purely a non-medical product they shouldn't be advising it as a treatment for anything; to do so they would actually need to prove that it was safe and effective)

Sarcoids are a form of cancer. You don't mess about with cancer IMO, and you certainly don't put goop designed to encourage cell proliferation on to a tumour.

The problem is that some sarcoids can show natural regression, and many sarcoids are misdiagnosed. Other conditions, which may resemble sarcoids, can show spontaneous healing, so there will always be people who 'swear' that remedies such as camrosa, aloe vera or homeopathic thuja, have 'cured' their horse's sarcoids.
 
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The problem may be that they are irritated by the saddle and aggravated. I have had sarcoids frozen off by my vet, and this seems to have worked. (About 2 years since this was done and no reoccurence). Took a few weeks to heal. I would strictly follow vets advice, but you may find that they are not an issue once addressed.

I hope so, because I find it hard to believe that the owner was ignorant of them.
 
Of course the horse comes first!! my daughter loves him and we have every intention of doing everything we can to ensure he has a happy, long life with us. I may have been an idiot for not having him vetted or taking someone more experienced with me but that doesn't mean that I am heartless. He is a fabulous horse, with great potential and is a perfect gentleman. We are following the vets advise and intend to do everything we can for him.
 
Good luck :) There are no certainties with sarcoids, but my ginger horse has been my 'horse of a lifetime' and his sarcoids have never caused any problems at all x
 
thank you for the listing the web sites and being so understanding, been with the horse all afternoon and about to have a look on the internet now.
 
My horse had a tiny sarcoid (another appeared two years later) when vetted but still passed a 5 stage, although insurance was excluded on sarcoids.

His treatment, Liverpool cream, pics sent to Professor Knottenbolt etc cost under £200. One sarcoid disappeared, another too but has reappeared as the flat grey scaly variety (verrucous type). It's going to be looked at this week by the vet. There is Liverpool cream left over at the surgery.

Point is, it's not necessarily the end of the world, but do please speak to your vet as you say you will. It's not worth messing with these things. Keep a good eye on the area and be hygienic, don't use the brush in that area then another and son. Glove up to groom there until you have a firm diagnosis.
 
BH has a a couple of small sarcoids, the flat grey type. Until they do anything they are being left alone as they cause no problems (vet advice) as once you start treating you can make them worse (?) so until problematic it's best to leave them. Or something like that anyway.

OP, the owner may not of known or they may have been a lying cow bag. Either way it probably isn't going to be the end of the world and I hope you and your lovely new horse get along swimmingly. I would try and let it go and just enjoy your new toy :)

Now, where are the photos?! :D
 
lesley.jnakowski@sky said:
Of course the horse comes first!! my daughter loves him and we have every intention of doing everything we can to ensure he has a happy, long life with us. I may have been an idiot for not having him vetted or taking someone more experienced with me but that doesn't mean that I am heartless. He is a fabulous horse, with great potential and is a perfect gentleman. We are following the vets advise and intend to do everything we can for him.
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I have has several horses with sarcoidsI have got them all treated it takes awhile they rarely go first treatment you need to keep a close check on the horse for ever.
You have learnt a lesson about vetting it will cost some money my last foray into the war against the sarcoid cost £1300 in total
But if you love the horse it's worth it the horse could be doing far worse things.
Remember if they are ever "raw" they can be passed to other horse so keep a good barrier cream on them and make sure all wounds on his companions are kept covered with a barrier cream to ( I got an excellent cream from my vet for
this ).
Good luck with him enjoy him all horses have something you have to manage as long as you are having fun with him it's worth ever penny.
 
lesley.jnakowski@sky said:
Of course the horse comes first!! my daughter loves him and we have every intention of doing everything we can to ensure he has a happy, long life with us. I may have been an idiot for not having him vetted or taking someone more experienced with me but that doesn't mean that I am heartless. He is a fabulous horse, with great potential and is a perfect gentleman. We are following the vets advise and intend to do everything we can for him.
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^^^^^ good, hopefully the sarcoids wont give any further bother and your daughter gets many happy years with him :D
Im glad your playing the hand youve been dealt with this horse and hope he turns into a real cracker that does a great job
 
cptrayes said:
It isn't and it hasn't been for many years now, because it can be dangerous on them.

I'm still not convinced your horse was missold OP. The one on my horse looked every bit like a scar until it started to get bigger instead of smaller. If it was genuinely a private sale, and the horse had got a couple of small injuries, they could have been fooled just like I was.
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Aha, I had no idea, but I must admit I never bothered reading any further about the stuff as when it first came out claiming a 'cure all' I looked into it and was was so:eek::eek: I switched off from it.
 
watch 'at home with carl hester' or whatever its called, I was amazed at how many of his horses had sarcoids... there was an episode where it covered the vet visiting to treat them
 
Sarcoids aren't really that big a deal...in the grand scheme of what can go wrong with a horse.
Some vets think they are a problem when vetting and some don't .
At my yard they sell horses and that seems to be the vets opionion when he sees them.
They seem to be more interested on the horses ability, it is a dressage yard and people who compete at a high level have that as there priority.
So don't worry too much..it's treatable
 
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