DressageCob
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What I find funny are the jack russells for sale in Harrods for £1,500, and these designer cross-breeds for upwards of £3,000. Talk about price inflation!!
Misleading cross-breeds
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piebaldsparkle
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Couldn't resist ribbing the stuck-up owners of a cockerpoo that I had always gone for crossbreeds too, until I got pure bred JRT!
CinnamonChristmasCookie
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I am assuming that is a rhetorical question having read the two adverts
Totally!
I know. I too think they should be taken off the assured breeder's list
What's the betting tests eg eyes are not updated when they crossbreed? Littlelegs
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I remember the first time I heard the phrase 'labradoodle' I thought it must be some extremely rare old breed of dog from a previously isolated country as I hadn't heard of them. Laughed quite a lot when I was told. Until I realised the owner wasn't joking.
Mines a cross, mainly doberman but like a longer legged leaner version, so suspect there is lurcher in there too. Came from a shelter for a donation, however I think instead of doberman x, I shall refer to him as a dobercher or lurcherman in future & pretend he cost lots of money.
Mines a cross, mainly doberman but like a longer legged leaner version, so suspect there is lurcher in there too. Came from a shelter for a donation, however I think instead of doberman x, I shall refer to him as a dobercher or lurcherman in future & pretend he cost lots of money.
Kaylum
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I posted about this a while ago. There was a petition from dogs trust as well.
The dogs mother is not with them, it's terrible.
Lynnskatz
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to be fair i have a x breed that cost me the more than a pedigree of either breed, im not mad i just got my perfect dog, she is Shitzhu x pomaranian so she is small and fluffy but a bit tougher than the pomaranian on its own, but smaller than a shithzu and prettier, as i own a purebred Rotti who is clumsy i was worried about a faint little thing getting hurt.
s4sugar
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How did you know this was going to be your "perfect dog"?
Many Shih Tzu crosses are very undershot or have misaligned jaws and what was wrong with all the existing breeds? Have you never seen a German spitz?
Like the idiot owners of a cross I groomed recently who had paid four figures for a Shichon -five months old and already could put a finger into it's lower jaw with the mouth closed. They bought it because they didn't want the frequent grooming of a Bichon. ( it was matted- solid in places as they were using a puppy brish they had bought from the puppy farm along with the puppy )
EAST KENT
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EAST KENT
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My Daniff. bought for peanuts and fit as a flea. Hopefully she'll stay that way
Gorgeous!What is she supposed to be?
CorvusCorax
Deary me...
One does not automatically cancel out the other or hip dysplasia would have been eradicated a long time ago in pure breeds.
Poodles can also have HD. And epilepsy, and other heritable conditions.
It only takes one dog in a line to create a health ****storm.
If you breed a dysplastic lab or a lab that carries or throws bad hips, even to a clean poodle, you can still end up with dysplastic puppies.
If you breed a dysplastic lab to an epileptic poodle you can end up with a dysplastic, epileptic labradoodle.
The propagation of that point of view (one cancels out the other) by people who are too tight to put their hand in their pocket and pay for a set of x-rays and just cream money off puppy sales and damn the consequences, is what is so annoying.
Lynnskatz
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I didnt rush in to buying i had a good idea of what i wanted, im an experienced dog owner and use to show too. I checked bite etc before purchase. Anyways my hunch was right because i now have the most adorable little dog and im quite happy
omshowjumper
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I have 2 beautiful SPROLLIES? but they aren't even 'sprollies' as they are Springer/Cocker x Collie!! But they are the most fabulous dogs, and in most cases crossbreeds are better behaved and live longer than pedigrees, so the fact that crosses are going up in price doesn't really surprise me, as not everyone is into dog breeding really, as long as you have a healthy happy dog that you love is the main thing be it a pedigree or a 'mongrel'
splashgirl45
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i have 2 crossbreeds, a lurcher(basically a mongrel) and a collie/lab and both were cheap to buy as i would expect for a MONGREL!!!!!!
however i have just been talking to someone who has just bought a cavapoo(a mongrel/crossbreed) i didnt dare ask how much she was, anyway this person had googled both breeds and was aware of the health problems so is not a complete numpty, but the breeder has told her that cavaliers have a shortish life span but as she was crossed with a poodle she would live about 3 years longer!!!! i didnt have the heart to tell her that her precious pup might end up with health problems and a short life, but i did advise her to make sure she was insured just in case........
its a worry that these so called breeders are telling people untruths and are making a fortune out of them....
however i have just been talking to someone who has just bought a cavapoo(a mongrel/crossbreed) i didnt dare ask how much she was, anyway this person had googled both breeds and was aware of the health problems so is not a complete numpty, but the breeder has told her that cavaliers have a shortish life span but as she was crossed with a poodle she would live about 3 years longer!!!! i didnt have the heart to tell her that her precious pup might end up with health problems and a short life, but i did advise her to make sure she was insured just in case........
its a worry that these so called breeders are telling people untruths and are making a fortune out of them....
CinnamonChristmasCookie
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and in most cases crossbreeds are better behaved and live longer than pedigrees, so the fact that crosses are going up in price doesn't really surprise me, as not everyone is into dog breeding really, as long as you have a healthy happy dog that you love is the main thing be it a pedigree or a 'mongrel'
OMG! How can you say crossbreeds are better behaved?! Do you think pedigrees are so poor in their natures that they cannot be trained? How ridiculous!
The main thing is to health test and to explode the myth that crossbreeds are healthier than pedigrees. Health tested dogs are healthier than non health tested. End of story.
CAYLA
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i have 2 crossbreeds, a lurcher(basically a mongrel) and a collie/lab and both were cheap to buy as i would expect for a MONGREL!!!!!!
however i have just been talking to someone who has just bought a cavapoo(a mongrel/crossbreed) i didnt dare ask how much she was, anyway this person had googled both breeds and was aware of the health problems so is not a complete numpty, but the breeder has told her that cavaliers have a shortish life span but as she was crossed with a poodle she would live about 3 years longer!!!! i didnt have the heart to tell her that her precious pup might end up with health problems and a short life, but i did advise her to make sure she was insured just in case........
its a worry that these so called breeders are telling people untruths and are making a fortune out of them....
It's even more worrying people are so thick as to belive this (the living longer due to one half of the cross)
, I mean come on....you don't have to have dog experience of any kind to have a bit of common sense
CAYLA
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CAYLA
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I have 2 beautiful SPROLLIES? but they aren't even 'sprollies' as they are Springer/Cocker x Collie!! But they are the most fabulous dogs, and in most cases crossbreeds are better behaved and live longer than pedigrees, so the fact that crosses are going up in price doesn't really surprise me, as not everyone is into dog breeding really, as long as you have a healthy happy dog that you love is the main thing be it a pedigree or a 'mongrel'
Don't give people more credit than they are due.....they dont believe the myth of living longer easier to train (which is hilarious mind you)
they pay for the "silly name" FULL STOP!FreddiesGal
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We had a lady ring up yesterday asking us to take her "cairnoodle" puppy! I mean for goodness sake... luckily the poor little lass looks like a cairn and is not as weird as the name would suggest!
My mum's friend has a cockerpoo
^ All of that was hilarious!
CinnamonChristmasCookie
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Totally hilarious! Don't you know that my pedigrees are just uncontrollable lunatics?!
Elsiecat
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A few weeks ago I politely listened to a man telling me about his new 'Labradoodles.' Bargain at only £900 each as they are from Crufts lines, unfortunately the owner hadn't filed for kennel club papers as she didn't intend for them to be bred, just pets. They are however, full pedigree.
Seems legit.
Seems legit.
galaxy
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wow some people are gullible!!! Do you think they get ripped off my double glazing salesmen and "you've won the *middle of nowhere* lottery" too????
Elsiecat
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Actually, I believe he purchased them with the money he given after his long lost Nigerian relative contacted him via email and left him his early inheritance, all he had to do was supply his card number and sort code
galaxy
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Actually, I believe he purchased them with the money he given after his long lost Nigerian relative contacted him via email and left him his early inheritance, all he had to do was supply his card number and sort code
paha ha ha ha ha ha!
CinnamonChristmasCookie
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Actually, I believe he purchased them with the money he given after his long lost Nigerian relative contacted him via email and left him his early inheritance, all he had to do was supply his card number and sort code
PMSL! They are, of course, full 'pedigree'! I am appalled that the breeder didn't file KC papers: isn't it only about £11 per pup? How tight of her!
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Elsiecat
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Quite the bargain I'd say.
I also know of someone breeding her half chi x half jack russell to another chi in order to 'breed the jack russell out of her.' I can't decide whether she thinks this will mystically 'remove' the jack russell from her bitch or whether she's stupid enough to think the puppies will be full chihuahua. I'm hoping for the latter.
I also know of someone breeding her half chi x half jack russell to another chi in order to 'breed the jack russell out of her.' I can't decide whether she thinks this will mystically 'remove' the jack russell from her bitch or whether she's stupid enough to think the puppies will be full chihuahua. I'm hoping for the latter.
CinnamonChristmasCookie
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Sheer brilliance!
Kaylum
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I have 2 beautiful SPROLLIES? but they aren't even 'sprollies' as they are Springer/Cocker x Collie!! But they are the most fabulous dogs, and in most cases crossbreeds are better behaved and live longer than pedigrees, so the fact that crosses are going up in price doesn't really surprise me, as not everyone is into dog breeding really, as long as you have a healthy happy dog that you love is the main thing be it a pedigree or a 'mongrel'
Yep which is why my pedigree Scottie can be let off the lead and come back when called, has never chewed anything, sleeps on her own in the lounge, doesnt bark except a strangers, so where do you get your facts from I would love to know? She is 9 and I bought her because I wanted the Scottie loyalty and personality.
Kaylum
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I saw BOth parents before I bought her and they were happy friendly animals both KC registered. Not some random father who you never get to see.
You can tell straightaway the dog breeders who know what they are doing. They dont put their good stud dogs onto any old rubbish bitch, they actually care what they breed.
You can tell straightaway the dog breeders who know what they are doing. They dont put their good stud dogs onto any old rubbish bitch, they actually care what they breed.
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PolarSkye
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A friend of mine and her husband shelled out about £1,000 for a labradoodle because husband is allergic and labradoodles are so supposed to be non-allergenic. Dog has been rehomed to another friend beause . . . husband is allergic.
I neither blame nor judge my friend for her purchase - she loves dogs and wanted to find a way to have one in her home without her husband suffering . . . but I think this anecdote illustrates the pitfalls of these so-called "designer dogs."
I get that pretty much all KC registered breeds were created by us at some point - but many years of selective breeding has gone into "perfecting" those breeds (and not always in a good way, e.g., over/inbreeding). Surely there needs to be more attention paid to how and whether breeders are actually producing dogs that display the best, rather than the worst, traits of their parentage?
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I neither blame nor judge my friend for her purchase - she loves dogs and wanted to find a way to have one in her home without her husband suffering . . . but I think this anecdote illustrates the pitfalls of these so-called "designer dogs."
I get that pretty much all KC registered breeds were created by us at some point - but many years of selective breeding has gone into "perfecting" those breeds (and not always in a good way, e.g., over/inbreeding). Surely there needs to be more attention paid to how and whether breeders are actually producing dogs that display the best, rather than the worst, traits of their parentage?
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Crugeran Celt
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I can't believe that people actually think that all cross breeds are easier to train than a pedigree,rediculous! I do understand that some breeds can take a bit more effort than some but I personally believe it is down to the owners. In other words it depends on how much effort they are prepared to put in to the training of any dog regardess of breed/type. I have a cross and a pedigree, they are both very obedient and their recall is exceptional, BOTH OF THEM! Neither go on leads, they both walk along side me when asked, they are walked through land with cows, sheep, horses and chickens and never chase or even look at them. (Must confess my springer/collie does try to round up my friends chickens because my friend allows her to). So just goes to show it is down to the owner not the breed.