miss diagnoses on a vetting!

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Ok for this i shall not mention any names but help would be appreciated and any past experiences please! person A who did the vetting and my normal vet from the same practise will be person B,
so i have had my new horse 3 weeks, i did have him vetted which showed up proud flesh on his chest on the join to one of his front legs from which seller said (a friend of mine) was a martingale rub, which A looked at and said proud flesh on vetting form, now i had B out on wednesday to remove flesh who actually said it was a sarcoid! now B took photos back to vet to show A and send to liverpool who said it had change dramically and was now a sarcoid, i then sent pictures to seller to ask if it had changed and she said no! i cant understand how it would have change so much from proud flesh to suddenly a sarcoid??
I currently now have a horse with sarcoids which doesnt bother me but i paid 3k for him hes 4 and if i want to sell him which i did have in mind to produce and make money i cant because alot of people are so anti sarcoids so will never be worth the money he should be! there is also something behind his knee which im not sure what it is but have sent pictures to B to which has been there since i bought him so missed on vetting and today i noticed a patch of circle up in his back legs with could be a removed sarcoid again missed! now where do i stand im thinking a letter to the vets?
My other thing is he has only been insured for 3 weeks will insurance pay! knowing my luck no! this is the first horse i have ever had vetted in 21 years! im not too bothered he has them but am annoyed its all suddenly changed in 3 weeks! i would just like to say vet B has been fab! thank you
 
What a shock for you,however,it's not all doom and gloom as there are loads of ways to treat sarcoids,and i know there are people on this forum who will give advice based on their experiences.Sarcoids can suddenly change in appearance,and what does not seem sinister,can look different in a short space of time.Also,Sarcoids can disappear just as quickly as they erupt.Luckily the other vet is very supportive.Good luck.
 
Are you SURE it is a sarcoid? Friend's horse had a leision on his neck that very experienced vet thought was a sarcoid, took a biopsy, tested it and turned out not to be... it is, quite feasibly proud flesh and the mark on his leg something else entirely - my boy has several hairless marks on his legs from various things and I KNOW that they aren't anything sinster....

Don't panic yet maybe??!
 
If the vet has very obviously missed something in the original vetting and you feel the value of this horse is greatly effected then I would be taking action against that vet. If he has made an obvious mistake you will win easily and I would imagine you'd be compensated accordingly.
If it wasn't obvious and it hadn't changed or it didn't look like a sarcoid then I'm afraid you would have trouble taking it up against that vet.
If you are getting it treated then I would get it biopsied to confirm it is this.if it is I would suggest doing little with this horse and just selling it on again. If you think this horse would be worth 5-6k produced you have to expect that with sarcoids you may not get more than 3k. All depends on the talent of this horse, so you may be better cutting your losses and running.
I had a horse I bought to produce who ended up with sarcoids. He was easily worth 6k sarcoid free but I struggled to sell him for 4 months. I accepted the offer from the only person who would take him on at £2450. Ouch!! I made a loss.
I would definately not put a lot of time into a horse with sarcoids to make money on. I would however take on a horse myself who had sarcoids if it was very talented and the right horse for me.

Good luck. I hope you manage to sort this out.
 
It is quite common for a sarcoid to arise from proud flesh. The proud flesh attracts flies and the flies bring the virus that then causes the sarcoid, often from another sarcoid. You need to check with your insurers as to whether they would cover the horse but you may find that either he isn't covered for the first x number of weeks OR he isn't covered until you send the vetting certificate that states he's sound. Not sure what you would be claiming for? In any event, you MUST now tell your insurers or you could find yourself totally without cover if you claimed for something - anything! - in the future and it became clear that you hadn't advised about the sarcoid/proud flesh. One thing is certain, if it IS a sarcoid, it won't be covered for long, nor will any future health problems remotely linked to sarcoids!
 
What is this big thing with sarcoids, it is not the end of the horses life, they can easily be removed they do not hinder performance, so why are people so worried about them, i genuinely am asking this.
 
Stress can cause sarcoids to erupt and if you have only had your horse three weeks it is entirely possible that it was just a lump at the vetting and is now exposed because your new boy is in a new home with a new mum. I bought one that this happened with. I kept an eye on the sarcoid and it grew a little then withered, died and fell off... never to be seen again!

A lot of 3 or 4 year olds can grow short-term sarcoids which come up quickly and disappear again. I think it is something to do with their immune system maturing around this time too.

Don't panic yet, this may not be too disastrous... give it some time....
 
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I currently now have a horse with sarcoids which doesnt bother me but i paid 3k for him hes 4 and if i want to sell him which i did have in mind to produce and make money i cant because alot of people are so anti sarcoids so will never be worth the money he should be!
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Rubbish. Providing the sarcoid is successfully treated, there's no reason why you won't be able to sell on.

I bought a fantastic horse for the same money, and could have sold him 10 times over for three times the amount, even with a small untreated sarcoid.
 
Given the nature of insurance companies to wiggle out of claims they will probably exclude skin conditions in the area of his chest at this was noted on the vetting anyway so time may not be the issue - perhaps best to talk to them first before rushing into expensive treatment
 
Sarcoids often erupt when a change of home causes stress .
It's happen to me twice each time I shrugged put my hand in my pocket and got it treated as its near tack you will have to try to sort it , and yes the costs of sarcoids can be own going so people are sensible to be cautious about buying them.
I would be considering making a claim for the treatment against the original vet he's insured for that are you a BHS gold member that's what I would be doing if I where you calling them for advice.
 
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My other thing is he has only been insured for 3 weeks will insurance pay! knowing my luck no! this is the first horse i have ever had vetted in 21 years! im not too bothered he has them but am annoyed its all suddenly changed in 3 weeks! i would just like to say vet B has been fab! thank you
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they normally won't pay for first 14 days so you should be ok but you need to check your policy.
 
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