Mobile field shelter owners - watch out!

Everyone who wants to build stables infact build most things has to apply for planning permission. Obviously for 'mobile' field shelters you don't need to go to the trouble or expense. When they cease to be 'mobile' they become stables & therefore fall under the planning permission remit. How this is enforced or how it is punished (fine/caution whatever) does not really matter but if the council has to turn a blind eye to this then why should they not turn a blind eye to the gypsy encampment, which has no planning consent, that is currently in the news?

Without planning permission buildings would spring up everywhere & blight the landscape.

Councils have an incredible amount of complaints regarding stable yards. Complaints regarding ramshakled buildings, tatty caravans, rusting containers & places looking more like scrap yards than stables. They have to maintain some control over things otherwise many places would be totally out of control.
 
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The guy was asked to move them. He didn't. What else were the council to do if precedent was not to be set for a whole load of people doing just the same thing with mobile homes?


It's fairly well known, and on his suppliers' website, that mobile shelters need to be moved, not just moveable, to be considered mobile. He decided that that didn't apply to him. The reason the council jumped on him will have been because someone complained.
 
Elbie said:
Can they not just caution them? Seems ridiculous!
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He was warned that he was outwith the planning regulations. He decided to take the council on and not move his mobile field shelter. It takes quite a lot of paperwork to go to court, he had plenty of warning, he just decided he knew best. It would appear he didn't.
 
If you bought some mobile stables and never moved them, maybe after a certain period (is it 4 years?), they would be classed as permanent and not needing planning permission? In that case, it could be good for some people who are trying to establish a yard surely?
 
My mobile field Shelter took off in the wind last year - it flipped over and landed roof down on top of my post and rail fencing and made big holes in the roof.

And it is made by Nationals and is 12ft x 24ft!!

We have to pin it down incase it happens again!
 
Clippy said:
If you bought some mobile stables and never moved them, maybe after a certain period (is it 4 years?), they would be classed as permanent and not needing planning permission? In that case, it could be good for some people who are trying to establish a yard surely?
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I think it's more like 10 years and then you still have to apply for a Certificate of Lawful Use.
 
jemima_too said:
He was warned that he was outwith the planning regulations. He decided to take the council on and not move his mobile field shelter. It takes quite a lot of paperwork to go to court, he had plenty of warning, he just decided he knew best. It would appear he didn't.
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Agree with this. Very arrogant of the guy or he has too much money!!!
 
jemima_too said:
He was warned that he was outwith the planning regulations. He decided to take the council on and not move his mobile field shelter. It takes quite a lot of paperwork to go to court, he had plenty of warning, he just decided he knew best. It would appear he didn't.
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Yes, and he was given the opportunity to move it. :rolleyes:
Sadly, it's people like him that get Councils to focus on one area and laws to be tightened. The chances are someone pointed the Council to his shelter in the first place.
 
winchester said:
My mobile field Shelter took off in the wind last year - it flipped over and landed roof down on top of my post and rail fencing and made big holes in the roof.

And it is made by Nationals and is 12ft x 24ft!!

We have to pin it down incase it happens again!
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That's all well and good but it is no defence. If someone complains to the council you will need to unpin it, move it and re-pin it, five or six times a year.
 
This is probably a daft thing to ask but what about a shed? I'm getting a 10ft by 8ft shed to keep in the field for storing hay and feed in, now I'm not going to be moving that around 4 times a year so where do I stand with that??!
 
proctor said:
This is probably a daft thing to ask but what about a shed? I'm getting a 10ft by 8ft shed to keep in the field for storing hay and feed in, now I'm not going to be moving that around 4 times a year so where do I stand with that??!
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Phone the local planning office & they will answer any question you have.
 
winchester said:
My mobile field Shelter took off in the wind last year - it flipped over and landed roof down on top of my post and rail fencing and made big holes in the roof.

And it is made by Nationals and is 12ft x 24ft!!

We have to pin it down incase it happens again!
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You'll be ok with the planning people......after all your shelter was actually moved! ;)
 
Toby_Zaphod said:
Phone the local planning office & they will answer any question you have.
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If it's permanently in one place or clearly not going to be moved regularly, then it will need PP. Either normal PP, or if on a larger agric holding, agricultural notice (which costs less, applies to smaller agric buildings but isnt available to non agric or smaller holdings). Both have to be appplied for to the planners.
 
I do also think that part of the reason for the tatty and piecemeal buildings people have is because of the rules meaning only flimsy temporary buildings are exempt from PP - people dont want to risk being turned down for PP so have a combination of smaller sheds and containers, which dont look nice and wont last as long still looking good.

not sure what the answer is but I think the messy aspect is partly because of this.
 
Petty.

I bet those advertising trailers and vehicles stood in fields by the motorways for years don't have permission. smells like horse owner 'toff bashing' to me.
 
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