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Not sure whether anyone outside Scotland will have heard of the plight of six dogs found dumped as a pack in the countryside in D&G. There were ten originally but four were shot for worrying sheep.
The other six were successfully caught and are now at a local rescue. If anyone would like to follow the story it’s on the D&G Lost Dogs FB page.


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They would be a lot taller if there was real wolf in there, def some collie markings on some faces and feet.

I wonder if they're either just interrelated farm dogs or it's a breeding experiment gone wrong?
 

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Was talking to OH about this. I hope the farmer who shot the 4 is t getting too much hate. I saw it said on one of the rescue posts he tried to catch them first. I don’t think he deserves any hate, btw, but a lot of rescue people can be a bit blinkered.
 
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Was talking to OH about this. I hope the farmer who shot the 4 is t getting too much hate. I saw it said on one of the rescue posts he tried to catch them first. I don’t think he deserves any hate, btw, but a lot of rescue people can be a bit blinkered.
Most of the stuff I’ve read on social media is understanding of the farmer’s position.
 

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I’m glad there are kind, patient and experienced people who are willing to help these poor dogs. The sad truth though is that rescue centres up and down the country are completely overflowing with unwanted dogs with fewer issues than these poor animals are likely to have. I don’t have an answer.
 

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As guardian to an entire pack of rescues myself I can say that it IS possible to integrate them into a special kind of home but as with horses and probably all animals, you have to find that matching person. Their stars have to line up, as it were. Mine each have odd quirks and needs and I'm aware my solitary life is a price too high for alot of humans as it cost me a marriage friends and ability to go out without any of them ever. Basically they need a solitary weird old lady who chooses animals over people like myself!
 

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These dogs have only just been lifted from a strange situation. Plenty of dogs would find that stressful and not want to interact with humans and even well socialized loved family pets can be lost to 'survival' instinct meaning they won't even come to their owners until caught and resettled. So deciding to euth healthy adult dogs on first meeting is not really reasonable unless you euthanize all unhomed dogs. It will take a day or two to see what dogs you have underneath all of that at least - weeks to know how well they respond to training etc.
(And rescues are very very good at hamming up stray dog/rescued dog stories. At this point they have no more idea than anyone else what these dogs lives have been. E.g. they often claim nervous dogs must have been beaten - when I know plenty of nervous dogs who have lived pampered lives and are just a little neurotic/badly bred)
I have seen plenty of very anxious working labs or cockapoos etc who might look not dissimilar if they'd been out for a few days loose as a pack.
 
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That is all very true indeed. Added to that once they're no longer together as presumably the rescue will house then separately to some degree, their qualities and potentials will begin to surface.
 

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It's all well and good saying that it's too soon to euthanise, but the rescues are already rammed to the gills with dogs. Everyday they have to make uncomfortable decisions about which dogs they think they can soon turn round for re homing and which they can't.

Blame the people who released these dogs to fend for themselves, not the rescues if they haven't the space or manpower to properly deal with them.
 

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I thought some have a look of Malinois
They do have mali style piercing eyes, but I think border collies have similar too. Other than that they seem to vary quite a lot. I saw that the rescue centre think they may be a mum and pups and that there have been reports of another dog/s in the area since they were picked up. I really hope it's an unrelated report, heartbreaking to think there may be a terrified pup alone out there. People can be b*st*rds.
 

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It's most likely unrelated, but I will say sometimes people call the rspca and get absolutely nowhere trying to get help for dogs locked in where the owners have left them to fend for themselves, like the case in Nottingham a couple of days ago. The Newark Advertiser had to step in, obviously taking the credit, to get the starving dying dogs out. Neighbours had repeatedly called for help without success. It's clearly absolutely NEVER ok to just free unwanted animals but it made me wonder who set them free and whether it was those responsible for them or someone else afraid they'd die wherever they were held.
 

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Could be Mali, could be lab x GSD or husky, the brindle patterned one is making me think of a Dutch herder (and there is lots of interbreeding between Belgian and Dutch shepherds anyway!!) proper Bertie's Allsorts....
 

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but the rescues are already rammed to the gills with dogs

rammed to the gills with dogs who

can't live with other animals, no neighbouring dogs
adult home only
to be walked in dog-free areas
with muzzle
can't be left or will destroy the house

If I was adopting another, I think I would rather take a chance on one of the Moffat dogs.
 

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I know what you mean. It can feel like a million obstacles are thrown at perspective adopters, though I know shelters have to follow what they consider the best safety protocols for all concerned before rehoming. Sadly we all know how being stabled can effect some horses mentally, it's a fact some dogs emerge with worse issues than they went in with.
 

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rammed to the gills with dogs who

can't live with other animals, no neighbouring dogs
adult home only
to be walked in dog-free areas
with muzzle
can't be left or will destroy the house

If I was adopting another, I think I would rather take a chance on one of the Moffat dogs.
You have a valid point there 😬. We've looked at taking on a rescue before, and could only find ones that had to be the only pet in the house. Never mind no cats or small furries, but no other dogs either, which is us straight out.
 

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rammed to the gills with dogs who

can't live with other animals, no neighbouring dogs
adult home only
to be walked in dog-free areas
with muzzle
can't be left or will destroy the house

If I was adopting another, I think I would rather take a chance on one of the Moffat dogs.
Life at any cost seems to be the motto now a days. No matter that such homes that are willing to and have the skills to take on such a dog are in such short supply that they might as well be unicorns.
 
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