Mojo - Holographic Bands

becky6426 said:
Everything around us gives of waves/ frequencies whatever you like to call them which can affect the natural balance of the body.
The holograms act as filters against these and therefore neutralise these frequencies/ waves resulting in the natural balance being restored.
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Snort. I am a scientist, and this is total rubbish.
 
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TarrSteps said:
There is some evidence that magnets alter blood flow, which could be beneficial in the case of an injury or chronic condition. There is, however, a great deal of debate about which magnets do what and whether or not all magnets have some effect.

The credit card thing is making me laugh. :)
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My vet mocks me for my use of of magnetic boots and rug - referring to me as 'one of those neurotic owners' the cheeky beggar! :D Although he did concede that studies show that magnets raise body surface temperature, if nothing else.
 
becky6426 said:
At the moment we are desperatly trying to get together scientific evidence to prove there is something in it but have you ever tried to prove something that people don't fully understand like did the chicken come before the egg it's a nightmare!!
Believe me as soon as we have written evidence i'll be swinging from the rafters!!
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:D Surely you should 'desperatly' try and get that scientific evidence BEFORE launching a product on the market? Sorry being an accountant I only deal in FACTS.

P.S The egg came before the chicken because dinosaurs laid eggs before chickens evolved, chickens evolved from dinosaurs and therefore the egg would have been around before the chicken, not to mention that chickens are hatched from eggs so in order to become a viable life form there would need to be an egg for them to gestate within.
 
Dizzle said:
:D Surely you should 'desperatly' try and get that scientific evidence BEFORE launching a product on the market? Sorry being an accountant I only deal in FACTS.

P.S The egg came before the chicken because dinosaurs laid eggs before chickens evolved, chickens evolved from dinosaurs and therefore the egg would have been around before the chicken, not to mention that chickens are hatched from eggs so in order to become a viable life form there would need to be an egg for them to gestate within.
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Exactamondo!
 
becky6426 said:
At the moment we are desperatly trying to get together scientific evidence to prove there is something in it but have you ever tried to prove something that people don't fully understand like did the chicken come before the egg it's a nightmare!!
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Yes. It is my job to collect scientific data, interpret it, then write a report which the lay person can understand for my clients. I do it week in, week out, dealing with complete intangibles, with myriad variables which are different each time, and data which if you do not interpret it correctly could lead to people breaking the law (and probably subsequently suing me for literally millions). I run a successful business on this basis, and if I were to say 'well, I reckon this is the case because look, Joe Public gave me a tenner and thinks I am right, but I can't actually prove it' my clients would laugh me out of the boardroom and I'd have to find another job. Luckily the people you deal with are clearly far less demanding!! ;)

I've also shown that there is a way of testing broiler chickens for lameness without ever needing to see them walk, lameness being a key welfare indicator for chickens bred for the meat industry, and been published in the Vet Record (scientific peer reviewed literature) to prove it!

It's actually not very hard to gather replicable data to prove something as basic as the efficacy of these bands...unless of course the data don't show what you would like them to. In which case anecdotal evidence is waaaay more useful. :)
 
gosh I really don't know how the rest of us manage to get scientific evidence for things :rolleyes: I even have evidence for stuff that we don't know 'how' it works just whether it does or doesn't. Mechanisms are helpful to know but not imperative.
 
ester said:
gosh I really don't know how the rest of us manage to get scientific evidence for things :rolleyes: I even have evidence for stuff that we don't know 'how' it works just whether it does or doesn't. Mechanisms are helpful to know but not imperative.
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Even the clever maths people at CERN agree that you can have scientific evidence for something without knowing the mechanism....and even if it goes against all established science to date!

Mind you, I bet the guys at CERN would kill to know a mechanism right now!! Even if that was the 'oops, we made a rounding error' mechanism ;)
 
CERN guys : err yeah, well everyone we know this shouldn't be possible but we think we found this.. but its ok we've got some more tests which should show that there is something else going on affecting the results.


few months later: err that didn't work...
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becky6426 said:
people are willing to spend £100's of pounds on magnetic rugs and wraps and is there really any scientific evidence to prove they really work??
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Morris and Skalak in 2007 investigation called Acute Exposure to a Moderate Strength Magnetic Field Reduces Edema Formation in Rats

Which from my understanding said that you have two types of magnets: pulsating and static magnetic flow. Skalak looked at Static Magnetic Flow (SMF). Blood vessels, when exposed to a SMF would dilate, if they were already constricted. The blood vessels that were already constricted would dilate. Suggesting that SMF has a normalizing effect on blood vessels. This in turn would be beneficial to the healing process.
Skalak is now taking this research further, for fear that the current results are caused by a regression of the mean.


Ciomber and Aaron in 2005 Dec created an investigation into The role of electrical stimulation in bone repair through the Orthopaedics Research Laboratory at Brown Medical School.
There research suggests that a Pulsating Magnetic Field can affect electrical current in tissue. This aids the healing of bone fractures.

Neither are significant research, and both admit there are issues within their study and that further studies are required.

However, these seems like a step in the right direction towards scientific research into magnetic therapy ... as oppose to MOJO bands where no research has commenced?

Edit - Should add I don't work for any magnetic company etc Just that before I buy products I tend to research the science behind them. Use magnetic boots/rugs on the horses because there is some scientific evidence that suggests it helps the blood flow and healing processes. That is my choice and I'm aware many people are sceptic. Was posting some of the research I found though to prove to becky6426 that there is at least scientific research in that field. Whereas I am yet to find any research into the science behind holograms ....
 
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becky6426 said:
Hi everyone if anyone in interested in MOJO'S let me know i work for them and for you sceptics the hundreds of people that call and email with their great feedback can't really all be wrong or conned can they....??
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LOL!! I'm sorry, but that did make me giggle. :D

Ah, it's just like religion.... :rolleyes:
 
If you can provide me an extract or preferably a full article, published in a journal with an impact factor of more than about 10, I would be keen to review it.

Until such point, as Deborah Meaden would say...... I'm OUT!!


And, for the record, it's not about the horse knowing to disprove (!) the placebo theory as you are trying to..... It's the variance provided because the rider knew, or the owner knew...
 
hey PF I reckon PF enterprises are missing a trick here!

may I suggest that something like this ..
http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/270633452497?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar

plus something like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Warranty-..._Labels_LE&hash=item19caaecb75#ht_2463wt_1185

= a new PF franchise?
ps I just found this quote 'Using naturally occuring frequencies, MOJO Future Technolgie's products are programmed to help fine tune your body using a natural, drug free, non-transdermal method.'

non-transdermal.. must be magic then if having an effect! ;) :D
 
ester said:
ps I just found this quote 'Using naturally occuring frequencies, MOJO Future Technolgie's products are programmed to help fine tune your body using a natural, drug free, non-transdermal method.'

non-transdermal.. must be magic then if having an effect! ;) :D
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That's hilarious - so they work using naturally occurring frequencies that don't actually penetrate the skin. So if I were to come and stand next to you and hit a tuning fork, I could have the same effect?! In fact, my increased success eventing this year clearly has nothing to do with the training, and everything to do with the fact that I have been doing more bat surveys, and their naturally occurring ultrasonic frequency calls, have not been penetrating my skin. I didn't do much bat work last year, so the evidence is clear. Surveying bats increases your ability eventing.
 
SpottedCat said:
I didn't do much bat work last year, so the evidence is clear. Surveying bats increases your ability eventing.
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Seems perfectly logical to me. :D
Just as logical as saying last time I fell off I was wearing a hat and didn't die therefore the hat saved my life. ;)

ETA, do different species of bat affect different disciplines? i.e. would fruit bats be better for SJ?
 
I have bats at home. I have had the worse competing year in a while. Bang goes that theory.

I actually think if an individual chooses to use them and they help, then largely it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks BUT I will not be conned with back on envelope calculations and loony tunes science.
 
JunoXV said:
Seems perfectly logical to me. :D
Just as logical as saying last time I fell off I was wearing a hat and didn't die therefore the hat saved my life. ;)

ETA, do different species of bat affect different disciplines? i.e. would fruit bats be better for SJ?
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Mostly this year I have surveyed horseshoe bats. I think that says it all. :D
 
Llanali said:
I have bats at home. I have had the worse competing year in a while. Bang goes that theory.
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You clearly have the wrong kind of bats. Find some horseshoe bats and your success will improve, but only if you send me £24.99 to verify your bats. In return, I will send you a holographic sticker in which I have embedded bat calls (I have lots recorded and saved on my computer, so you can even choose the species, I obviously recommend the horseshoe ones for best results, though these carry a £2 surcharge), and I guarantee your competing might improve.
 
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