Moonlight flitters

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How do you get your liveries to pay up before disappearing ? One just left, no notice, owing money to various people. Seems an occupational hazard. Supposed to pay up front but things seem to drift becos you dont like hassling people all the time. Makes me mad people think that others should subsidise their hobby!

Update of horse not going out, he has been longreining out beautifully! Taking the pee obviously when ridden so Ive got his measure now.
 
at the yard I'm on now a deposit of one months rent has to be paid. It is then used for any unpaid bills when leaving, with the rest being refunded. Livery is paid within the week a month in advance, with any extras paid at the end of the month with the next months livery (if that makes sense!). Unfortunatly I think there will always be people who take the mick. An occupation hazard in most businesses I think.
 
Years ago, we became aware that a husband and wife on our DIY yard were gradually taking stuff home (yes, they too owed everyone money). My dear old Dad (long suffering, gentle and not horsey) er.... 'borrowed' their tack from our tack room the night before we reckoned, quite rightly, they were going to disappear.

They called him every name under the sun, threatened lawyers and to sue us for distress, but at the end of half an hour's rant, swapped the money they owed for their saddles....

I'm afraid hassling has to be done. And a month's deposit always kept back. But you know how small this world is - they'll soon run out of yards they can go to...
 
mine have to pay a month in advance on the first of the month, and that final, no leniency, no excuses, been there had that and never again. i issue invoices on the 26th of the month, and people who pay have to have their check with me on the 28th, cash and bank transfer have to be in the account on the 1st or I start charging interest at 5% per day over. it works, everyone knows where they stand and if they want to leave they can. the contract states 1 months notice on either part.
 
mine have to pay a month in advance on the first of the month, and that final, no leniency, no excuses, been there had that and never again. i issue invoices on the 26th of the month, and people who pay have to have their check with me on the 28th, cash and bank transfer have to be in the account on the 1st or I start charging interest at 5% per day over. it works, everyone knows where they stand and if they want to leave they can. the contract states 1 months notice on either part.


what if they wait till the end of the month just as it is due and then leave without you knowing in the middle of the night though ?
 
Surely that would be a month (like a bond) up front and then the months money when they move on the yard.That would stop them going before the month ended.

Having a little experience, I always say that I would treat a new livery like a future employee. I would want two previous yard references,if poss, or a vet reference or something along those lines. Cant stand when people dont pay and it must be very stressful for all you YO's out there. Not the easiest job at times, Im sure!
 
Quite right - but if they are that dodgy to be honest your sort of get to know and as we live here we see everything that goes on. Also if they leave at the end of the month it doesn;t really matter as they have already paid for it up front. We are also seriously choosy about who we have as clients and I have some fantastic friends as clients who have been in the area for years so know the dodgy ones. and we do ring each other up as soon as a prospective livery arrives so we know as much about them as we can. Our contract is tight, everyone signs it, and it lays out all the terms they have to adhere to and the consequences of a breach of contract.

If someone is so seriously dodgy they will do a moonlight flit I have padbolts and 19 lever padlocks and only 2 people have keys for those.So I bolt that up at night when I check the yard and i open it in the morning when I do the yard and I would definitely be aware of people moving stuff off in preperation for a flit.
 
Deposit, but also take references. Running a livery yard isn't a hobby, it is a business arrangement and if they can't supply suitable references don't go there (unless you think they are worth the risk!?)
 
Been down the reference line once before, apparently previous yard were so desperate to get rid of one client they wrote good references!
 
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