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Continuing my unashamed promotion of the Cleveland Bay what do you think of this chap pts at 31 years of age? Photo sent by a friend.

Right now there are quite a few CB colts on sale at reasonable prices. There is concern that not enough young stallions are coming forward and in 2009 we had only 16 fillies born in the UK.

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Whats his breeding? He could be Bucks brother he is nearly as stunning!
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The biggest problem (IMO) is we are putting pure mares to non CB stallions and therefore reducing the number of pure breds being born. A part bred should be produced from using a CB stallion and 'another' mare.
 
Well you must ask SSM's mum?? I have five including a four year old stallion standing at 17.2hh - if he were difficult - I could not handle him at all. I am a hack happy geriatric
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CB's are slow to mature and very intelligent. As youngsters they need firm but sympathetic handling - I am sure that over the years many have been 'spoiled'.

I love mine.
 
Sorry SSM but we have a part-bred due next year.

We planned a pure bred from our champion small hunter but she is not young. We decided that as our stallion was throwing big foals and she is only 15.2hh her first foal should be a bit 'easy' for her. She is in foal to a Shagya stallion.

We plan to breed our other mares 'pure' next year.
 
I am sorry but it is a complete and utter misconception, they are very clever animals and will very quickly twig as to what they can get away with.


I have two that I can pretty much do anything with and so can anyone else on the yard, with the exception of one person who was wary of Donks, who then took great pleasure in blocking the gate and not letting her bring her horse through!!!!!!!
 
If (when) I bred from my mare again, it will be to a CB, an ID or to one of the stallions I've already used on her. I really miss my cob, who everyone assumed was a CBx - he just rocked and I'd LOVE to try and replicate him for myself.
 
Can I ask where the Cleveland Bay originated from? What was it bred for originally? I have never really thought about it, but looked at the pic of that stallion and thought wow, what a horse - almost looks like a (and please don't throw stuff at me if I offend, I don't mean to) heavy horse front and a warmblood backend. He looks a real powerhouse.
 
Bred to be carriage horses I believe (HRH The Duke of Edinburgh drove them in trials for YEARS and they are used extensively by The Queen for ceremonial purposes). They are also one of the breeds that the modern WB has been founded upon and arguably the TB too!!
 
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You will be one of my first ports of call to help me go CB hubby shopping in about 3 or 4 years!!
 
If you look at Buck he has that powerhouse look about him!

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And here from the CBHS site is their history, there are a lot of the society members who can recite entire breeding histories and it is fascinating.

CLEVELAND BAY HISTORY

As its name suggests, the Cleveland Bay emanates from the Cleveland area of North East England. Without doubt it is Britains oldest breed of horse and has been fixed in type much longer than the Society's foundation date suggests.

The church played a very large role in their breeding. Throughout the middle ages the Monastic houses in the North East were the principal breeders of horses. Pack horses were needed for the trading of goods between the various Abbeys and Monasteries.

Most certainly the ancestors of todays Cleveland Bays, particularly on the female side, were such pack horses bred in the Yorkshire Dales. Locally they were known as Chapman horses, the name being derived from the name given to packmen and itinerant pedlars of those days ie "Chapmen".

There was an influx of barb horses into the port of Whitby. These were used on Chapman mares.

Before the end of the 17th Century the main ingredient of the Cleveland Bay, the Chapman, and the Barb had come together to mould the type of powerful horse whose popularity as a pack/harness horse was beginning to spread beyond the North East.

The next century saw an increase in weight and size of these horses - better feeding being one of the reasons. The result was a quality versatile horse which found many uses away from the Monasteries as agricultural horses drawing carts and waggons of various types.

A demand for faster carriage horses resulted in some breeders crossing their Clevelands with strong Thoroughbreds.

Their off-spring were known as the Yorkshire Coach Horse a tall elegant carriage horse, much in demand by the rich and royal.

The late 18th Century was the golden age of carriage driving. Yorkshire Coach Horses were exported all over the world to provide matched pairs and teams.

During the height of the London season, hundreds of pairs of Yorkshire Coach Horses could be seen in Hyde Park every afternoon.

To this day one may still detect the two types of Cleveland - the smaller, resembling the Chapman, and the taller resembling the Yorkshire Coach Horses. Both nevertheless retain the bone and substance of their ancestors.

The coming of the motor car and tractor put an end to the need for Cleveland Bays. They went into decline. Many were sold abroad.

A few dedicated breeders in the North East kept the breed alive.

QUALITIES

The Pure-Bred Cleveland Bay is a very intelligent horse with a sensible temperament. They possess a strong character which, if mishandled can be spoiled.

They have plenty of bone and substance, are hardy, long lived and have tremendous stamina.

Characteristically the breed is very bold and honest. They are always bay in colour their action is level, free and long striding.

They are an established breed and so breed true to type. Their characteristics and traits are passed on to their progeny. This makes them an ideal out-cross.

America, Japan, India, Australia and New Zealand and many other countries have imported Cleveland Bays to improve their native stock.

May European Warmbloods, particularly the Gelderlander, Oldenburg, Holstein, and Hanoverian owe much to the Cleveland Bay influence. Some European and Baltic draught horses such as the Russian Vladimir and Danish Schienswig have the benefit of Cleveland blood.

VERSATILITY

Perhaps the Cleveland's greatest advantage is its versatility.

Early Clevelands were versatile pack and harness horses. The present day Cleveland is equally versatile in relation to the modern equine disciplines.

This has been proved by a Pure Bred Stallion who has been performance tested by the National Stallion Association. The test includes dressage, show jumping, and cross country phases.

As carriage and driving horses they remain unsurpassed. For this purpose a good number are kept at the Royal Mews. Teams of Clevelands can be seen competing in FEI driving trials. Many are driven as singles and in pairs purely for pleasure.

They make ideal heavy weight hunters for the field, and can be exhibited in the show ring either as in-hand, ridden or working hunters.

As sound active horses with substance, stamina and a good temperament they make excellent police horses.

The ability to break a Cleveland Bay to saddle and harness makes this breed invaluable to all round enthusiast to whom one horse can be all things!

INTERESTED IN CLEVELAND BAY

Some breeders prefer to sell their stock privately. Occasionally Clevelands can be found through adverts placed in equine publications such as "Horse & Hound". However, the Society will be pleased to supply you with the names, addresses and telephone numbers of members who breed Pure Bred Cleveland Bays. The Society holds an annual sale run in conjunction with the HIS. This is held in September at York, North Yorkshire. Catalogues are available in advance.

If you already own a Pure-Bred Cleveland Bay, please make sure it is registered with this Society. A Cleveland is a valuable horse and it is important the Society is aware of its existence. Registration with other bodies should not replace registration with the Cleveland Bay Horse Society. Entry of a Pure-Bred Cleveland Bay in the stud book adds to a horses intrinsic value. If registration with the British Horse Database is required to facilitate eligibility for competitions, this can be arranged through the Society by the overstamping of Society registration documents.

Even if you do not own a Cleveland Bay you can support this wonderful British breed by becoming a member of the Society. Your attendance at meetings and involvement in social activities will be most welcome.



THE BRITISH HORSE WITH A HISTORY AND A FUTURE
 
I love the CB's and do think we should do all we can to ensure the purebred survives but I do believe a bit of cross breeding with the TB is necessary to get some 'fresh blood' into the bloodlines as they are so closely bred because they were and are so rare. If we're not carefull we'll end up with all sorts of problems being bred into the breed.

I also think, that ideally like other breeds stock should be proven and stallions and mares should not be bred from until they have had the chance to prove what they're made of under saddle.

I agree regarding the comments on their general nature and can see how they could be missunderstood. they are very intelligent and do like a bit of thinking time to consider new things but they are incredibly honest and try their hearts out for you. Love them.
 
In the 12th Century the CB was a pack horse know as the Chapman horse. It is Britain's oldest breed. In the 18th Century barb arabians were crossed with Chapman mares. The breed increased in height by about a hand.

The Edwardians and Victorians appreciated them as carriage horses like no other. They also make great hunters. Two current female members of the CBHS have mares who have competed in endurance to 80kms. They have great stamina. As you say a power house with a gentle nature.

The were used by German breeders to improve both Oldenburgh and Holstein. The CB does not look like a warmblood the warmblood looks like a CB

If you look on the CBHS website there is a fantastic history written by Nigel Cowgill. www.clevelandbay.com/history.htm

I have written a shorter history for a new on-line magazine. www.horsebreedersmagazine.com - on line 11th November.
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What a fabulous stallion. What's his name?
I used to live near Storth House and used to see the amazing Temptation from time to time which was interesting if I was out on my stallion.
 
The Queen loves her CB's !! and who are we to argue with the Queen. I've known a few pure breed mares but I rode a TB/CB not sure which war round 17hh mare who was nothing short of amazing bold and trusting , clever and funny ! She gave my rusting confidence a boost (I'd been riding them same horse for way to long)
 
Wow, he's gorgeous. We've just bought a coloured part bred CB filly. We've only owned her for 6 weeks but she has come on really well. She's sensible and intelligent. I only hope I can do her justice!

We measured her at the weekend and she was 15.1hh. She's just turned 2 and is suppose to mature to 15.3hh but I have a feeling she won't stop there.

I've owned 2 others in the past and they were both amazing!
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I'll take that as a compliment! he is a soppy sweetheart! and quite likes just standing and taking him his surroundings! - he goes to stand at that gate every morning - after he's had his breakfast to watch things going on...and he also enjoys his walks onto the common to watch remote controlled aeroplanes and kites fly...
 
Ok, here goes rollin - Any excuse to show her off......

Luna is half CB, quarter ID, quarter TB (but of course Dad must of had some cob in there some how) He is called Edenvalley Outlaw, he's also coloured like Luna. Her mam is Stainmore Summer Rose, bred by Barbara Martindale, Cumbria.

We've owned her for 6 weeks now, she's 15.1hh and 2 yr old. She's been wormed, had her teeth and feet done and at the end of this month she will be freezemarked. I've also sent off some hair to check if she is homozygous. It's early day, but her progress has been amazing. Everything from rug training to leaving her to graze alone, she's learning loads. Here she is..................
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She already has over 8 inch of bone, my only fear is that she'll be too big for me or that I won't educate her correctly. I believe a good solid foundation is essential to produce a well mannered and quietly confident mature horse. We'll take her to some local trailblazers showing classes next year. When she starts her ridden education, she will be training classically from the start by me having regular lessons with my friend who is EE trained. Do you like her rollin?
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Just love this breed esp after Merls..he was part bred his dad was a full up CB and very very powerful looking his mum was a coloured cob type, his full bro was coloured.
Merl looked soo much like his dad except he had white markings on his pretty face, the CB's are a huge character to have around and yes Honest most definately merlin was certainly honest and loyal and was so loving, Miss him loads and would still be keen to have another one when i come to go looking...
 
I think she is very nice indeed. She has the deep girth and powerful looking quarters that we expect of a CB. Her head is quite pretty and I like her markings. I am sure she will do you proud when you have her backed.

I thought Barbara had bred her I have two mares out of Stainmore dams both 15.3hh. Both are very sweet tempered. I like horses of that height. They have enough size and power to jump but are small enough to fit into a traditional vehicle for carriage driving.

I have purchased 3 CB who were unbacked - and I have no experience of young horses. I too had professional help but I do think that regular handling gets youngsters off to a good start. Example, Mine come when called, are good in the stable and with the farrier and are good to load.
 
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