Motorbikes and bridle paths

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Today I had an encounter with a motorbike on a bridle path near to my yard. It was the first time since moving yards that I have ventured out alone on Doug ( as I often rode alone at last yard). He was a bit nappy anyway as he didn't particularly want to leave our cob Mcfly but the incident with the bike just sent him over the edge. I had planned to ride just over half way and then return home rather that doing the longer hack as I had been later setting out than I had hoped to be.
He was a little on edge and not willing to go forward along the track and I thought he was napping again but as I could see further ahead I noticed a man on a bike revving up and riding around what looked like a bench.
Bikes and my horse don't mix as he hates them. They give him a sparkle up the backside when on the roads nevermind on a bridle track and somewhere to my knowledge they ought not to be.
Anyway I made the decision to turn back and return home. A short while after he started to try and jig jog and got agitated. To which I then heard the vroom noise of the bike behind. The guy had either decided to head in my direction or else follow me, one or the other?
By this time Doug was very upset. Pulling for his head, and was becoming very hard to control. He was scared shitless and kept feeling as though if I let go of his head he would bolt. I turned and shouted to him something along the lines of ' will you go away you are scaring the horse and this is meant to be a bridle path.' I was very, very reserved for once. Not rude and neither did I swear at him which given the circumstances was very odd for me. I was more interested in getting my horse back under control.
A constant battle of wills between me and the horse ensued. Him fighting for his head, head shaking, foam everywhere. If any of you have ever seen this horse ( some of you may have done) he is a very big beast. Not just tall but his neck is just full of muscle. By this time I was really psd off. I had tried checking, pulling on one rein and even sawing to make him slow down and be back under control. I could hear the bike in the distance as I thought he had gone the opposite way. Oh no he had decided to double back. It seemed as though he had gone along a new path which has been constructed ( not for horse riders, just walkers) which connects with the path ( again walkers only) that goes to the pool, yes I am talking about Bateswood.
I don't know which way he cut across ( it may even have been across the grass) but all I know was that I could hear him close again. Doug by this time had started screeching out to another horse he could see in a field.
The bike was turning again as if to head onto the bridle path once more. At this point I was near the gate ( which was closed) as I had ridden across the horse crossing/style to get in. I decided to dismount quickly and lead him instead. By this time I just didn't feel safe. I had no idea where the rider was going to go, even follow me maybe?
Added to this there would be the horse's field to go past, the ones he had been calling out to. As you come out of the bridleway there is a small path that leads to a main road which can be busy, hence the reason I chickened and baled out at that point as I had no idea if the bike would be going the same way as me.
By this point I was a bag of nerves. I am still not 100% confident hacking out alone and today has really put the wind up me. Not deterred completely though I walked down the main road and across the little lane to get back home and found a safe place to mount and got back on and rode the rest of the way home. He was still jig joggy on the remainder of the journey.
On the way back I spotted a police officer who had visited a house and so I asked them about whether or not it was illegal for a motorbike rider to be on a bridle path? They said they thought it was just meant for horses. The officer took my name and contact number and said someone would ring me about the incident.
Firstly I would like to ask people if they would have done the same having spotted the police officer and would have wanted to report the incident which could have led to an accident imo?
Also whether I should chase this matter up with the police or wait for them to contact me?
And finally if anyone else rides along or near to that route please be on the lookout for this bike and rider. The bike was black and the rider hatless. He looked around mid to late thirties, with brown hair? it was either very short, like shaved or else he was balding. I cannot remember much more because at the time I was too busy trying not to get planted on the floor and stop my horse from bolting
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Caz
 
What a horrible experience - just glad you are both ok, if somewhat shaken. Regards the bridlepath - if it is a bridleway or restricted byway, then no motorised vehicles are permitted. Peter Natt (forum member and BHS bridleways officer) will be able to advise you on who to report this to and it may be that if it is a persistent problem, you can get barriers put in that restrict motorbikes, but allow cyclists, horseriders and walkers through.
We have a restricted byway that runs along our land, we had problems with a few motorbikes inspite of the fact that it has large signs prohibiting motorised vehicles. I put a large sign up saying that all motorised vehicles will be reported to the police and that CCTV was in operation (it is), this seems to have done the trick so far. However, recently a road legal quad came along it and when we stopped him, he was very apologetic and said he wasn't sure where he was allowed to go - the next day we got a visit from the police saying he had reported us for stopping him
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and they didn't realise that motorised vehicles couldn't use bridleways and restricted byways
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- I despair
 
Thanks Jaylen. This is the first time I have seen a bike along that particular track. We do get walkers, people with kids and or dogs, and cyclists which is fair enough. When I was at my old yard a lady told me they had encountered a quad bike along that track when out with the pony.
I know there is a problem with off road bikers at Apedale country park which has bridleways. I don't use it except when doing an endurance ride that starts and ends there because I don't agree with paying for a permit to ride along it when anyone else can walk their dog, cycle, ramble or fly their kite there for free. The permit system was meant to have been scrapped but there is conflicting advice about this and to my knowledge according to a meeting last month it was still in force because of the barriers they have up that riders have to let themselves through ( don't know if they have a key system then ?) because they cannot leave them open at all times for riders ( hence no permit system) due to problems with off roaders and bikers.
What I fail to understand though is there is loads of waste ground these people can ride on. There is even an off road track near to Finney Green available ( but this maybe just be for 4x4 not sure?) and there is also a speedway/banger racing track at Chesterton not far away either.
Us riders have got no where around here to be honest. Except for roads, (some of which are awful) Bateswood and Apedale parks which have bridle paths and you can also ride along Finney Green ( which was near my old yard) but then you had to run the risk of off roaders, bikers and gangs. So for all intents and purposes we only have one free bridle path which is near to us, which is at Bateswood.
 
years and years ago there was a local kid,( well known to the law and more than likely dead or inside now) , and he used to ride a trials bike up and down the bridleways. we had to use one particular bridleway to access anywhere we wanted to ride.one day he kept riding his bike past the horses or revving up behind them ,just being a pain in the proverbial and thinking he was clever etc. he wasnt looking to clever when i lost it and booted him off the damn thing as he rode past for the 4th time! thinking back the pony i had at the time was a flippin saint to put up with that.
think you did the right thing reporting him and make sure you follow it up if you dont hear anything. is it also not illegal to ride a motorbike without a helmet on?
 
Thanks Ottinmeg and well done you on booting him off. I am not usually a person who complains a lot but today was different because that man was an idiot and luckily on this occasion I was able to get my horse back under control. However on another day I may not be so lucky but worse still is that someone else on another day and time could not be so fortunate and end up coming off and either them or their horse being injured as a result. I am also a member of a forum locally too so I will be discussing this matter with the Police at the next meeting, but sadly that is a few months away but I will still bring the matter up as I feel it is important.
I have been doing some reading up since my post and yes the guy today was doing an illegal activity.

According to section 34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988
Prohibition of driving motor vehicles elsewhere than on roads (1) Subject to the provisions of this section, if without lawful authority a person drives a motor vehicle—
(a) on to or upon any common land, moorland or land of any other description, not being land forming part of a road, or
(b) on any road being a footpath or bridleway,
he is guilty of an offence. ( Taken from the Office of Public sector information OPSI online)
I have also read that it is wise to report to the local council who should have a rights of way officer, and to maybe contact any local bridleways associations in conjunction with the BHS.
I will be taking this matter further as I feel it is important that riders should be afforded at least a modicum of safety whilst riding along designated bridle paths and the provision of that safety should include enforcement of the law against people who are taking part in illegal activities such as off roading on bridle paths.
As for wearing helmets when off roading I am not sure on that one. Have done a few searches but have drawn a blank, does anyone know the laws regarding helmets and off road bikes?
 
Firstly go to your local police station as soon as possible and report it. Ask them for an incident number. This is important as this means it will be logged in to the system.

Check that the track you are using is a Bridleway or a Restricted Byeway in which case motorised vehicles are not allowed to use it. You can check with the definitive map officer at your local County Council.

If that is the case then report it in writing (send by Royal Mail Signed for delivery - so that there is no doubt they received it) to the access department of your local County Council so that they can evaluate the bridleway and see if their is anything that they can do to restrict access to it by motorbikes.

In our area motorcyclists are given one warning by our rural community police officer when found riding on bridleways or restricted byways and then their motorcycles are crushed.
 
We had ongoing problems with bikes on bridleways around us, either driving at 60mph (I kid you not) on the straight bits or going up and down really steep slopes with no visibility due to the hedgerow and no room to pass horses, or walkers. It was an absolute nightmare and the local police did absolutely nothing even though they were illegal. Finally the local gamekeeper had to camp out there for a few days with a scary dog and a gun and they moved on.
 
Gawd that is awful booboos. I can't believe that the police didn't take the matter seriously since the actions those people were doing were illegal and very, very dangerous. It is no wonder that no-one was injured as a result of their blatant irresponsibility
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Peter many thanks for your reply. I will get on to the matter today as the police have not responded to my report yesterday so it looks like as always is it up to us horse riders and owners to chase matters up.
Caz
 
What a shame you've had trouble with a biker. Where I ride, there are a couple of byways on which I've never had any trouble. I've found them the most considerate of all the users and that includes other horse-riders!

It's worth mentioning in addition to Peter's post that even on a byway, the bike has to be road legal i.e. with MOT, lights and the rider wearing a helmet. Dirt bikes can also be confiscated if they do not comply, byway or not.
 
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