Motors Feet nearly 4 years post Laminitis - with PICS

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I hope this helps any of you, with horses who have had, or are currently suffering from Laminitis
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These are pictures taken yesterday, after being shod on Monday.

They show how weak the Laminae looks when it grows down. The Farrier rasps all the 'cruddy' old stuff off so that they are neat and tidy (sorry a bit crudely put, but it is the best I can do!)

For those of you who do not know 'Motor' .... he went down with Cushings Induced Laminitis in October 2005 at the age of 24 .... he is now a happy 28 year old, being ridden regularly and can still be a handful, when the mood takes him
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Sorry if there seems to be repeats, however I got snap happy ... also the green on his feet, is him stepping over/missing the ledge on his Field Shelter, I think
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Sorry but that looks like a case of seedy toe/general infection/rot to me, does your farrier not comment on how bad the toes are?

I've re-habbed a few laminitics and not one has feet like that now but one did have a little seedy toe for a fair few months after but definitely not yrs after. It only takes between 6 mths and 9 mths for a new hoof to grow down and out.
 
Yes it does take 6-9 months in a healthy young horse with no metabolic/hormonal (i.e. Cushings) issues, but for older horses with Cushings induced Lami it can take up to a year OR MORE for the hoof to fully grow back, once the metabolic cause is under control, which can take a long time in itself, if it is ever fully under control!

What you can see at the toe is where the toe has been redressed back (think that is the correct terminology) and is usual practice..... my boys foot looks very similar and he has to have a filler on the side where he had Lami (outside) as it just isn't growing at the same rate as the healthy side!

BTW Solution 4 Feet is a very good hoof disenfectant IMO (just use once a week) if anyone is worried about foot infections
 
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Sorry but that looks like a case of seedy toe/general infection/rot to me, does your farrier not comment on how bad the toes are?


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One of the laminitics I look after has the same since a bad attack about four years ago. They aren't infected whatsoever. This pony also has cushings and has been in work at least three years except for a couple of mild bouts of laminitis.

It is weird how the toes keep appearing damaged when its supposed to take around 18 months for a foot to grow right out.
 
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So will that eventually all grow out then?

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Hi Seahorse and thanks for your reply
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No it won't, sadly
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, as the damage was done all those years ago, this shows just what happens in a chronic case of Laminitis
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But he is ok though
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Thanks everyone
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The way my Farrier explains it to me, is that the laminae is structured like a dovetail joint and once it has been compromised, by the Laminitis, then it will never bond back and be normal again, as the structure is so weak now. The toes have been 'dressed' to remove all the weak horn on the outside, otherwise they would be cracked and split and look a real mess. I am very happy with the result. I am also fortunate that he has had no infection.

If the Farrier thought it was a case of seedy toe, he would have spoken to me about it and says this is just what he expects to find. I am always present at the shoeings and he talks in detail to me about Motor's feet and is so impressed that he/we got through it in the first place, and even mentions that he often talks about the 'success' story to others.

He is one of the best Farriers in this area, and specialises in corrective shoeing, and I would highly recommend him. He has shod Motor for all the 18 years I have had the pleasure of owning him
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Motor had 10 degrees of rotation, which I understand is quite bad, so am lucky that he came through.

If anyone else has similar pictures at a similar stage/degree of rotation, then I would be very interested in seeing them.

Thanks again
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ETS Pasha .... have you got any pictures of your boy's feet, please?
 
Really interesting thread Eaglestone!
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I don't have any photos of our old mare who suffered 9 & 11 degrees of rotation in the front pedal bones. She, like Motor had a dorsal wall resection and it too never fully grew out. It always remained slightly visible, even 3 years later when she sadly passed away.

I have just been out and taken some photos of my boy who suffered rotation of all four pedal bones and foundered in his near fore in August 2007. He is rising 21 now and although he didn't have a dorsal wall resection at the time, his toes have been trimmed back regularly with routine farriery to keep them in the correct shape.

This is his near fore where the pedal bone foundered and also suffered 8 degrees of rotation:
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His off fore which had 9 degrees of rotation:
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His near hind which had 6 degrees of rotation:
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and finally his off hind which had 4 degrees of rotation:
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I'm pleased to say he recovered from his horrendous lami attack and is now a sound happy veteran who may be coming back into very light work soon. We have no idea what caused his attack but now have him on a daily dose of formula 4 feet and Vitex 4 equids and touchwood we have managed to keep a repeat attack of the dreaded lami at bay!!
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Thank you for posting the photos Eaglestone, I find them very interesting.
 
These are Bilbo's tootsies 4 months on from his latest lami attack...
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7 months on
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and he's just been done again and his hooves are looking great and he's back in work...albeit just walking for now
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These are some old xrays
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Honeypots .... Bilbo's feet look great now
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... the xray looks frightening, but it just shows what a good Farrier can do
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.... will have to try and dig Motor's out
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Wow, very very interesting photos. Thanks for that. I wonder if we should try to get Admin to archive photos of particular ailments. Perhaps a sub folder in Vet?

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Thanks for that PF and what a great idea
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