moving yards - how much notice?

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How much notice would you expect to give before moving yards if nothing had been agreed and you hadn't signed a contract? Would it change if you weren't best pleased with the service you were receiving but didn't want to fall out with them particularly.
 
pay weekly one week pay monthly one month - simples!! if you want to move early thats fine but you would have to pay your notice, thats only fair
 
Agreed with Martlin.
I was less than pleased with service at my last yard but paid the month notice.... I paid in form of my deposit though as didn't want to risk an paying an extra months payment without receiving my deposit back!

Pan
 
hmm, thanks guys. I pay monthly but it's worked out on a daily rate. Do you reckon that means a months notice even though I'm on full livery so wouldn't be using all the services if I left early? I'm paying through the nose for full livery but feel that the standard of care isn't great e.g. weekend staff forgetting to give hay to my ulcer prone horse, not cleaning the tack when they're meant to, not grooming properly (or possibly at all?), not skipping out at the weekends etc. I don't want to fall out with them as it's a small world, but equally I don't see why they should get a windfall.
 
Do you reckon that means a months notice even though I'm on full livery so wouldn't be using all the services if I left early?
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Yep, a months notice.

I don't want to fall out with them as it's a small world, but equally I don't see why they should get a windfall.
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But it's ok for them to be out of pocket???
 
ghostie said:
hmm, thanks guys. I pay monthly but it's worked out on a daily rate. Do you reckon that means a months notice even though I'm on full livery so wouldn't be using all the services if I left early? I'm paying through the nose for full livery but feel that the standard of care isn't great e.g. weekend staff forgetting to give hay to my ulcer prone horse, not cleaning the tack when they're meant to, not grooming properly (or possibly at all?), not skipping out at the weekends etc. I don't want to fall out with them as it's a small world, but equally I don't see why they should get a windfall.
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Yes, it still means a months notice, you can always leave earlier, but don't expect them to refund.
 
amymay said:
Yep, a months notice.



But it's ok for them to be out of pocket???
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I'm not saying I wouldn't pay anything, but my charge includes feed, bedding and hay he wouldn't be using, so doesn't seem fair to pay for that surely? Also I'm loathed at having to continue to pay for services that aren't being provided. E.g. I pay an extra £6 a day for tack cleaning and grooming, but that is really not up to scratch. Would it be reasonable to ask them to stop doing that during my notice?
 
ghostie said:
I'm not saying I wouldn't pay anything, but my charge includes feed, bedding and hay he wouldn't be using, so doesn't seem fair to pay for that surely? Also I'm loathed at having to continue to pay for services that aren't being provided. E.g. I pay an extra £6 a day for tack cleaning and grooming, but that is really not up to scratch. Would it be reasonable to ask them to stop doing that during my notice?
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erm, no, not really, the feed might be not used, but they have already bought it, as well as paying wages to staff whether you use the services or not.
At the end of the day, all you can do is discuss it with the YO and see where that gets you :)
 
amymay said:
But it's ok for them to be out of pocket???
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Agreed. As a YO we would never evict someone on the day we decide to end the contract, so why on earth should we be left without even a short time period to try and fill a space. Even if there were large issues there would be a minimum one month notice for them to find elsewhere.

We have twice had people leave without paying past the day they left and giving less than a weeks notice. I don't like the practice at all, I think it's very ignorant if you are aware you are leaving not to give notice ahead. We would never tell them to leave earlier, but to have arranged other livery and not make the YO aware is just rude imo.

Ironically these liveries quickly called back to ask for their place back. Luckily for them we have an open policy (unless they were requested to leave) so they are welcome back but are straight on a strict contract now and other YO's probably would have called this 'burning bridges'

Pan
 
I would give a weeks notice as a courtesy. I always say, leave on good terms and always have the option to go back if you even need to because you never know whats round the corner - I have never left a yard on poor terms no matter what my opinion of the services being provided
 
PandorasJar said:
Agreed. As a YO we would never evict someone on the day we decide to end the contract, so why on earth should we be left without even a short time period to try and fill a space. Even if there were large issues there would be a minimum one month notice for them to find elsewhere.

We have twice had people leave without paying past the day they left and giving less than a weeks notice. I don't like the practice at all, I think it's very ignorant if you are aware you are leaving not to give notice ahead. We would never tell them to leave earlier, but to have arranged other livery and not make the YO aware is just rude imo.

Ironically these liveries quickly called back to ask for their place back. Luckily for them we have an open policy (unless they were requested to leave) so they are welcome back but are straight on a strict contract now and other YO's probably would have called this 'burning bridges'

Pan
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I have never said I'm not going to give notice or pay what is reasonable. I agree that this is unfair. I think my inclination is to say I'm happy to give and pay for a month's notice, but that given my tack cleaning and grooming isn't being done properly I would like to opt out of this for the remainder of my time there (there are different livery options, so would just be changing my option to the next one down).
 
I agree with the pay monthly = month notice however...

I have just been in the circumstance where to woman decided to double my bill with no notice so I have returned the favour by moving my horses with only notice being time taken to arrange transport :mad:
 
I recently moved yards ... not because i was unhappy there , it was part way through the month and the yard owner was happy for me to just pay up til when i left , although i would have been happy to pay for the rest of the month . if however i had been unhappy with services paid for as in your situation , i'm not sure i would have felt the same ? You should discuss this with your livery manager ... If you went to a restuarant and they only half cooked your dinner , would you pay the bill ??
 
Hevs said:
I would give a weeks notice as a courtesy. I always say, leave on good terms and always have the option to go back if you even need to because you never know whats round the corner - I have never left a yard on poor terms no matter what my opinion of the services being provided
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Very much this :).

Even when I've had to move in a hurry, I've left on good terms, received my deposit back and the YOs at both ends have been kind enough to pro-rata what was owed as I was leaving in the middle of a month.

Don't burn your bridges. Give the appropriate notice. The horsey world is a small, relatively closed community and word gets around about liveries who leave yards on bad terms.

Good luck! :).

P
 
ghostie said:
I have never said I'm not going to give notice or pay what is reasonable. I agree that this is unfair. I think my inclination is to say I'm happy to give and pay for a month's notice, but that given my tack cleaning and grooming isn't being done properly I would like to opt out of this for the remainder of my time there (there are different livery options, so would just be changing my option to the next one down).
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I still don't agree with this,

You went in on full, you are taking up a place which someone could be there on full. If you didn't agree with the charges why pay the in the first place? I'd personally pay a month of my standard rate.

Pan
 
I would discuss with the YO/YM that you do not think things are gettng done properly, maturely like an adult.

I would give a month's notice - its up to you if you leave early...

I always try and treat people like I would like to be treated. Even if it doesn't work out that they treat me that way, at least I have the moral high ground!
 
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