Moving yards, should I give notice?

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If your YO was abusive and manipulating towards you, including in front of other liveries and definitely through no fault of your own (I do know he struggles with MH issues), would you leave without giving notice? There is no contract in place, I have been there for over 4 years and the situation is not improving. I have found another yard and technically could go tomorrow. I am avoiding riding at the moment because I am so anxious about being there. I just want out. I don't want to give too many more details just in case they are on here!
 
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well yes you probably should, or at least pay the money even if you leave. if you decided not to though then there's not much that could be done (except small claims-if you pay monthly for example, it can be argued that is the contract should the YO be bothered). If you don't tell anyone on an internet forum, then noone would know or be able to justify your decision ;) It sounds ghastly but ime the horse world is small, people find out locally. Only you can tell if its worth it to you or not.
 
I’ve been at a yard where the yo was abusive. I’d heard stories, from her, about her physically abusing property and people too.
I chose to give notice, but left before it was over all fully paid up. I didn’t want to but also didn’t want to risk any consequences.
If I were you, I’d pay your notice and leave . If you fear a bad reaction, take your horse and your property then tell him you’re leaving and pay your notice. The horse world can be very small, and even though you know the truth, others may not.
 
fathorselover said:
If your YO was abusive and manipulating towards you, including in front of other liveries and definitely through no fault of your own (I do know he struggles with MH issues), would you leave without giving notice? There is no contract in place, I have been there for over 4 years and the situation is not improving. I have found another yard and technically could go tomorrow. I am avoiding riding at the moment because I am so anxious about being there. I just want out. I don't want to give too many more details just in case they are on here!
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Do you pay monthly or weekly? In theory yes you give notice if they require it.
 
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Nothing wrong with leaving immediately as long as you pay for the notice period. Tough if you pay monthly but yes the horse world is small and word will get out. Even if you're not to blame better pay up imho x
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This is what I was going to suggest too - it's worth paying a month to ensure you get no further grief from this person - good luck in your new yard x
 
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Having been on a yard with a very unstable YO, I would do this without question. Get your stuff and your horse out and safe and pay up - there’s no come back if you’ve paid and they’ll be happy to fill the stable and get double the rent.
 
I have left without giving notice once, but paid for the following period as if I had given notice and remained to use it. If you're concerned about the safety of your horses at a yard, there's not a great deal else you can do.
 
As others have said, yes you should pay your notice period but you do not have to stay for the notice period. You will have an implied contract with the yard, whether you have signed a document or not. If you have not expressly agreed a particular notice period then it is fair to assume that it is the same as your periodic payment, so presumably either a week or a month. So, tell noone you are doing it, ship your horse and your stuff out on a convenient day and give notice and pay for the notice period the same day. You will have to pay for both yards for your notice period but it sounds as though it is worth it for peace of mind.
 
Leandy said:
As others have said, yes you should pay your notice period but you do not have to stay for the notice period. You will have an implied contract with the yard, whether you have signed a document or not. If you have not expressly agreed a particular notice period then it is fair to assume that it is the same as your periodic payment, so presumably either a week or a month. So, tell noone you are doing it, ship your horse and your stuff out on a convenient day and give notice and pay for the notice period the same day. You will have to pay for both yards for your notice period but it sounds as though it is worth it for peace of mind.
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I agree and would definitely be doing this!
 
Ditto above advice basically, can't be bettered.

Just make sure that the yard where you are moving TO is all OK i.e. sign the livery contract, give them whatever livery fee they want up-front, and then you can move your horse any time you want, the sooner the better I'd say.

Re. the actual moving, personally I'd be inclined to do the actual "deed" on the Quiet without telling a soul you're going to do so! I don't know whether you have your own transport, or would have to arrange a transporter, but I would suggest bright and early one morning would be the best time! Try and organise your stuff beforehand, if you can, then surreptitiously take a little bit of stuff home with you every day, i.e. rugs you don't use, etc. quietly. Leave only the bare essentials. Then - having made sure that your intended yard is expecting you - before you leave the yard, your last task would be to leave a little note giving your notice and a cheque for the outstanding livery amount. I say a cheque because then there will be a banking/financial record of the transaction rather than cash and they can say they haven't received it!

Personally I would arrange everything at the yard where you're intending to go to ASAP and make sure everything is Tickety-Boo, and then move.

Oh...... and (pleeese!) DO make sure you have everything sorted and above-board in a proper Contract. Don't be caught out in a bad situation again.

Good luck!
 
I just left the most awful livery yard I have ever come across. The whole sorry saga is a story for another day, but we made sure that we paid a months deposit, then quietly loaded up the ponies and stuff and left at times we knew no one was about. I did think about driving mine off the yard and loading her up in the village and would have done had there been any signs of trouble. In my case theres already been a lot of lies spread about us owing money and not paying in an attempt to block any other yards from taking us, so I wanted to make absolutely certain I could prove I had paid every penny and all the notice.

You just never know what some of these lunatics are going to say and do so you need to make sure you are completely above board in your actions.
 
If the owner is erratic, pay what you owe, get your horse & belongings & leave. Do not give notice. I wouldn’t trust him, personally.
 
I gave two weeks notice to my witch of a YO. She locked my horse in the field and demanded 100 pounds to release him! I was so ill with chemo I just paid it.
 
fathorselover said:
If your YO was abusive and manipulating towards you, including in front of other liveries and definitely through no fault of your own (I do know he struggles with MH issues), would you leave without giving notice? There is no contract in place, I have been there for over 4 years and the situation is not improving. I have found another yard and technically could go tomorrow. I am avoiding riding at the moment because I am so anxious about being there. I just want out. I don't want to give too many more details just in case they are on here!
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Well Yes I would give a written letter and say this is confirmation of my notice of leaving the yard. I don't mind if livery owners leave before the notice period ends as long as they pay up to and including the final day of notice.
 
Yep, some good advice there. Confirm place at new livery yard so they know you'll be turning up. Don't tell anyone at the yard, take all your stuff home quietly, so there is absolute minimum for you to load. Load horse and be ready to drive away before leaving notice letter and a cheque to the end of the month or whatever.
 
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