My Abprazole has arrived- optimum feeding plan

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I cant afford Gastroguard, horse is not insured as every limb is excluded so I don't need any one getting at me for buying this please!

Im going to feed it first thing- before his breakfast? or in his breakfast? either way will be on an empty stomach

Will feed alongside a supplement containing a pre and pro biotic
and will feed corn oil alongside also.

Im going to give the full dose (3 sachets for his size) for 28 days then cut down slowly over the next 2/3 weeks.
He will then hopefully be turned out full time and have a herbal digestive support to help avoid a re-occurrence.
He will also be on a high fibre diet, he gets no cereals, very limited carrots or treats, stacks of hay.

These tips are things ive read on here over the last few weeks- If anyone has anything to add or advise id be very grateful.
I know ideally id have scoped and bought gastroguard but im doing the best i can here!

Thanks and thank you to those who recommended Abler and their product to me...fingers crossed!
 
Feed with as little food as possible and ideally 20 mins (or as close as you can get) before breakfast. This is because you want it sitting in the stomach for as little time as possible to preserve the enteric coating, and the more food in there the slower it'll pass through.

Get him started on the support supplement asap, rather than 'switching onto it' after the omeprazole.

Put him on a hefty, high quality probiotic. Protexin Gut Balancer is good, others report good results from Alltech Lifeforce.

And, be critical of the treatment. By which I mean don't get so excited that one symptom goes that you ignore the fact that another one hasn't gone. Ulcers are often secondary to some other chronic pain elsewhere and there's no point treating the secondary impact if you miss the original cause. Plus they're often accompanied by hind gut discomfort (I don't like branding all hind gut discomfort 'hind gut ulcers' because there are various types and causes). This won't be helped by the omeprazole but may well be helped by the probiotic and sugar reduction, or may need additional help afterwards.
 
Also, add two spoonfuls of sodium bicarbonate to help neutralize the acid in the stomach - you have a better chance of it actually arriving into the intestine in good shape.

I would also recommend you to take a deep look into what you're feeding and reduce the starch and sugar content as much as you can. My horse is super sensible to ulcers and will probably be on a daily maintenance dose of Abgard for the rest of her life, so I've had to learn how to deal with them the hard way. If I can help you in any way, feel free to PM.
 
Holidays-are-coming. Thanks yes I've come across that before im sure and its what id intended to do. Would oil work as the stickiness rather than molasses?

Philemena. Im glad you mentioned Protexin! no one ive asked about it seems to have any opinion but its what id decided to buy after examining ever tub in every local store!
A lovely HHO'er is helping me plan the "after care" supplement very kindly and is waiting on more info from me so I will get on with that and get it started.
I will keep an open mind re the symptoms.

SCMSL- wow, Poor you and your bank balance- Im really hoping that wont be the case with mine as I will struggle with that.
The Bicarb of soda is a new one on me, Ive not heard that one. Would you add it too the small omeprazole feed or just in the normal feed? (Id be concerned he wont eat a hand ful of chaff containing too much powder!)

I could probably get away with not giving breakfast tbh although I expect being turned out and eating will have much the same effect at giving a feed shortly after?

Feed wise he is on as close to low sugar/ high fibre I think I can get already.

Thank you for your replies- Appreciate them
 
Brilliant Thank you!
It was actually the gut balancer id looked at more just because it seemed to be more suited to my requirements (ie the probiotic)
Do you find the Acid ease expensive too feed? Locally they only stock a 10kg bucket so its a small fortune but I assume they can order a smaller quantity
 
Acid ease was a bit expensive (thinking 30 or 40 quids) but efficient. Mare had a 1 month course of omeprazole granules, then 1 month course of acid ease (not sure which size bucket but lasted 30 days) then switched onto the gut balancer. The omeprazole didn't seem to make a difference but the acid ease did, also noticed when I stopped feeding it.

She now has magnesium oxide (in a mineral supplements) and a small scoop of bran daily (with linseed and some nuts or alfa-oil) and I keep some yea-sacc, limestone flour and bentonite clay to add to her bucket for when she is travelling or any expected stress (dentist, competition...), this is about the same composition than the acid ease but cheaper.
The acid ease pellets are very palatable as well (apple smell) and that helped because she wasn't very keen on feeds.

Here is what the Protexin website lists for Acid Ease:

Contents:
Protexin probiotic
Saccharomyces cerevisiae (NCYC Sc47) 4b1702
2 x 1010 CFU/kg

Ingredients:
Wheatfeed, Nutritionally-improved cereal straw, Oat fibre, Wheat bran, Soya expeller, Sodium chloride, Ryegrass meal, Calcium carbonate (BP), Magnesium carbonate (BP), Kaolin, Preplex prebiotic (FOS & Gum acacia), Di-calcium phosphate.
 
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Sodium Bicarb basically "sticks" to the ulcers, forming a layer between the acid and the mucosa of the stomach. It also raises the stomach's pH, so helps to keep the omeprazole intact while acting as an antacid.

I give mine a spoonful with anything she eats in a bucket. They don't even notice the taste or the smell - mine is super picky and won't eat any of the supplements she was supposed to have.
 
Not around here, but its pretty inexpensive so I don't bother looking anywhere else.

Previous to the bicarb, I was giving a super expensive pre and probiotic which did absolutely nothing. The bicarb managed to sort her tummy in a matter of days - she had always had runny cow like poo and bad gas and discomfort which went away in maybe a week.
 
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