My filly aborted surprise foal.... some *poss graphic* Qs!

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My poor little 2yr old miniature filly aborted a surprise foal on wednesday night. I bought her at the beginning of november, she was vetted thoroughly but no one was looking for a foal! The first I knew about it was a call from YO on thurs morning telling me they'd found it and put it in a bucket for me
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Spoke to vet on the way up there who said as long as there was no discharge or torn placenta then she should be ok. Filly is fine in herself, she'd obviously been sweating and needed her back end cleaning up, but other than that you wouldn't know any different. She was totally disinterested in the foetus and is her normal chirpy self, eating fine and no sign of any discharge.

After talking to her breeder, it seems that my filly's sire managed to get through a fence to her at the end of september and breeder found him in her field in the morning, but because he was paying no attention and she wasn't in season they assumed nothing had happened
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Lesson learnt I hope!

Anyway, I am very glad that she didn't go full term, but now I have some questions!

The foetus was about 8/9ins - didn't actually measure it - which is about right for a 115ish day mini foetus, but I don't think it was forming quite 'right'. The foetus was also very dark red/purple, and the placenta a very dark red/brown colour, but I've found a website with pics of other aborted mini foals from various stages of gestation, and they're all pink, or pink with purple patches, except for one which had died and was brown and liquidy
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so I'm wondering if the colour is due to exposure to air for several hours, or the reason she slipped it? I have some pics, could I PM or email them to someone who knows about these things, or I can post them up for discussion if I'm not going to offend. General consensus around me seems to be that I'm a morbid individual for taking them but I'm fascinated
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She has been itchy since I've had her, she has an incredibly thick and long coat, but there's nothing living in there and I think she's been hot, but in the last week she has rubbed a shoulder almost bald. Since yesterday morning though, she is increasingly less itchy
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Could that all be related?

Lastly, is this likely to affect her future fertility? She's not intended solely for breeding, but I probably would like to breed from her at some point in the future. It has been pointed out to me that at least I know she's fertile
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I don't know whether she slipped it because the foal wasn't right, or she's young (turned 2 in august), or whether the fact that I've had her on a diet and slimmed her down considerably (she was very tubby when I bought her, and has more to come off before the spring grass!) since she's been here has anything to do with it
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but as I said I am very glad she didn't carry it full term!

Apologies for the gory and graphic question!
 
I don't know anything about breeding but as I have a morbid fascination aswell I goggled it, I found this website which you may find useful for comparison.

(do not look if squeamish etc)

http://www.crayonboxminiatures.com/developmentminifetus.html

Going by these pictures your fetus sounds like it was about the right size, also the fetuses pictured all look different colours so maybe that's normal, like I said though I really don't know very much about breeding.
 
Simsar vet seemed to think that as long as there was no discharge etc then he wasn't needed for anything. I did think about offering him the foetus. I think it's probably still in the bucket packed with snow, it was when I was up there earlier! I asked YO to keep it for 24hrs incase vet wanted to see it if Poppy got ill but the bucket was still there tonight. Will speak to vet again, he might be on tomorrow.

3B, yes that's the website I was talking about, but this foetus just doesn't look quite like those, the colour, and it's front legs I think are abnormal. Wouldn't be surprising if it was deformed though, being her dad's foal?!
 
Strange link to website on miniature foal abortion pics.

Are there similar sites for sports horses (for example?) or any other breed?

If not - is it moral to continue trying to breed miniatures if so many of them struggle to reproduce?
 
It sounds like there was possibly a genetic problem with the foal, especially as it was an unplanned father - daughter mating.

I feel I must add, miniature horses are no different to breed than their larger cousins. I wonder how you have come to your moral question from one aborted foal and a website. There are plenty of photos on the internet of larger aborted foetuses, unfortunately it happens.
 
I actually found that web site really interesting, it really shows the different stages of development. Brightsyde, im sure your filly will be fine for future breeding, as cruileline says it was probably a genetic fault. its natures way of dealling with these things.
 
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